Posted on 04/20/2013 5:24:12 AM PDT by rhema
Even knowing that there are radicals in all movements, doesn’t lessen the startling admission recently by lesbian journalist Masha Gessen. On a radio show she actually admits that homosexual activists are lying about their radical political agenda. She says that they don’t want to access the institution of marriage; they want to radically redefine and eventually eliminate it.
Here is what she recently said on a radio interview:
“It’s a no-brainer that (homosexual activists) should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. …(F)ighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there — because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.
"The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change. And again, I don’t think it should exist. And I don’t like taking part in creating fictions about my life. That’s sort of not what I had in mind when I came out thirty years ago.
"I have three kids who have five parents, more or less, and I don’t see why they shouldn’t have five parents legally… I met my new partner, and she had just had a baby, and that baby’s biological father is my brother, and my daughter’s biological father is a man who lives in Russia, and my adopted son also considers him his father. So the five parents break down into two groups of three… And really, I would like to live in a legal system that is capable of reflecting that reality, and I don’t think that’s compatible with the institution of marriage.”
For quite some time, the defenders of natural marriage have attempted to point out that the true agenda behind the homosexual demands organizations is not marriage equality; it is the total unraveling of marriage and uprooting traditional values from society. (This will ultimately include efforts to silence and punish some churches that openly adhere to their religious teachings about marriage and sexual morality.)
While few have been as vocal as this lesbian activist was in this interview, we do have numerical examples proving her point. When given the opportunity to marry, after laws have been struck down relatively small percentages of homosexuals actually bother to marry compared to their heterosexual counterparts. This raises question about the true need to unravel marriage for the “fair” extension its benefits. Only 12 percent of homosexuals in the Netherlands marry compared to 86 percent of their heterosexual peers. Less than 20 percent of same-sex couples already living together in California married when given the chance in 2008. In contrast, 91 percent of heterosexual couples in California who are living together are married.
Clearly this is about cultural change and tearing down the traditional family ethic, since it seems that most homosexuals living together neither need nor desire to marry, though they do desire to radically change marriage.
Gays and lesbians are free to live as they choose, and we live in a society which roundly applauds them doing so like never before in our history, but they do not have the right to rewrite marriage for all of society.
Interspousal financial transfers are tax free, even avoiding estate taxes. Legal polygamy/polyandry would be an effective end-run around the estate tax.
I’m against gay marriage but if you really want to know what destroyed marriage, it was no-fault divorce and the 60s sexual “revolution” that made living together and sleeping around OK.
That’s true, but that’s not relevant here.
Slightly off target...the real aim of the anti-marriage folks is against Christianity. That is their target.
No, its purpose is to destroy religious freedom. Once these perverted laws become the “norm”, the next step will be to demand their marraiges be conducted in churches, “just like every other loving couple”. If the church refuses, they will be sued, using the full force and power of the government, all with the enthusiastic backing of the Demonic Party.
It will be a relentless attack on churches of all faiths (except Islam) as these demented evil souls will not be satisfied with using churches that have turned their back on God by marrying same sex couples; they will demand their services be held at those churches that adhere to God’s word, until none exist.
Yes it is. We would not have gay marriage if marriage had not been suffering blow after blow over the past 30 to 40 years. Conservatives like to think that gay marriage is what is destroying marriage. They don’t like to be reminded that marriage was in a lot of trouble way before gay marriage. Look at the generational statistics — young people don’t marry and many have kids out of wedlock. Marriage is turning into the exception rather than the rule among thge lower and even middle classes. Even if there was no gay marriage, marriage would have been in great danger of being destroyed by non-gays. I’m not arguing for gay marriage, but articles like this allow conservatives to fool themselves into thinking that gay marriage is what is destroying traditional marriage.
The underlying motive behind leftism and its destruction is envy, a dark and evil force.
You miss my point, and the point of the article. What you said is factual, but the insertion of facts at an inappropriate part of a debate is not beneficial. You also are guilty of false conflation. Sure, everything you mentioned has weakened marriage, and made if vulnerable - but that doesn’t make it the same thing as forces who are setting out to destroy marriage.
By your definition, using an anlogy and logic, any institution that is weakened by it’s own imperfection deserves to be destroyed by those who hate it in the first place. To harp on this now is just absurd, even though you are using some factual information as the basis of your opinionated blowhardiness....
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Don’t forgery Marxism. Marriage is the root of evil for Marxist. It teaches and propagates the concept of property, the great enemy of equality, and has long been seen as an enemy of the utopian state, where it is the state that functions as the parent, with the biological parents as no more than replaceable baby sitters. Google Marxism with androgeny. Interesting results.
do I really have to say it???
The success of the Sodomites is a symptom. The appearance of sodomite control, inter alia, points to the fact that those who once governed have abdicated, we can no longer exclude. Exclusion is the hallmark of a great people. The “Big Tent,” “Room at th Table” symbolize the passing of the great ones.
i was gonna post it's picture till i saw what it looks like, don't want to ruin anybodies breakfast...
see #26....heck read the whole thing
They don’t want to hear it. Conservatives today don’t want to acknowledge the hand they had it creating this mess and a lot of them will attack you for holding up that mirror in front of them. For God’s sake, don’t remind them who the first governor was to sign no fault divorce into law. Don’t remind them which political platform nationalized child support enforcement, providing more incentives to kick fathers out of the family. Don’t remind them that they made one deal with the devil after another to get favors from fedgov for married people at the expense of single people, then bitched when big brother started attaching strings to those decades of favors.
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