[Opinionated Blowhard]

Yes it is. We would not have gay marriage if marriage had not been suffering blow after blow over the past 30 to 40 years. Conservatives like to think that gay marriage is what is destroying marriage. They don’t like to be reminded that marriage was in a lot of trouble way before gay marriage. Look at the generational statistics — young people don’t marry and many have kids out of wedlock. Marriage is turning into the exception rather than the rule among thge lower and even middle classes. Even if there was no gay marriage, marriage would have been in great danger of being destroyed by non-gays. I’m not arguing for gay marriage, but articles like this allow conservatives to fool themselves into thinking that gay marriage is what is destroying traditional marriage.

[C. Edmund Wright]

You miss my point, and the point of the article. What you said is factual, but the insertion of facts at an inappropriate part of a debate is not beneficial. You also are guilty of false conflation. Sure, everything you mentioned has weakened marriage, and made if vulnerable - but that doesn’t make it the same thing as forces who are setting out to destroy marriage.

By your definition, using an anlogy and logic, any institution that is weakened by it’s own imperfection deserves to be destroyed by those who hate it in the first place. To harp on this now is just absurd, even though you are using some factual information as the basis of your opinionated blowhardiness....

[Orangedog]

They don’t want to hear it. Conservatives today don’t want to acknowledge the hand they had it creating this mess and a lot of them will attack you for holding up that mirror in front of them. For God’s sake, don’t remind them who the first governor was to sign no fault divorce into law. Don’t remind them which political platform nationalized child support enforcement, providing more incentives to kick fathers out of the family. Don’t remind them that they made one deal with the devil after another to get favors from fedgov for married people at the expense of single people, then bitched when big brother started attaching strings to those decades of favors.

[stormhill]

Thank you for sticking to your guns; you are absolutely right.
The cause of the fall of marriage is as you said, permissiveness. The current attack by the "gay" activists is an opportunistic infection which can attack and destroy the body only because its immunity has been already compromised.

That been said, the same people behind the present abomination also engineered the original paradigm shift of the 60s.

[AustinBill]

Agreed. And all of this was foretold in great detail in Humanae Vitae in 1968, the overt rejection of which is as good a tipping point as any in the moral slide into the abyss.