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Barack Obama can't pass gun control despite 90 per cent support.
The Telegraph ^ | April 18th, 2013 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 04/18/2013 5:45:28 AM PDT by apillar

Yesterday, the most modest of gun control proposals died in the Senate. It would have expanded background checks to people purchasing weapons at gun shows and online sales, enjoyed 90 per cent support among the public and came on the back of the tragedy at Newtown. Yet, despite all that it had going for it, the Toomey-Manchin bill raised just 54 votes – six short of the number necessary for passage. “This is a pretty shameful day for Washington,” said Obama afterwards. It wasn’t exactly a red letter day for him, either.

Barack Obama is a lame duck president. Nobody listens to what he says anymore, nobody is interested in winning his approval and nobody much cares if he thinks they have “let the country down”. This is typical for a second-term president who has lost all their leverage because they’re no longer running for office and everybody is patiently waiting for the day when he quits the White House. But Obama's difficult personality has doubled the size of the challenge. Gloating in victory, adolescent in defeat – the Prez doesn’t make it easy to work with him. Why should conservative senators give him a legislative victory after he has spent four years painting them as knuckle-dragging rednecks who hate women and the poor?

Whatever your position on gun control, yesterday’s events are a damning indictment of Obama’s presidency – a flash of style, lots of soaring rhetoric and, when the votes are actually counted, little show for any of it. America has four more years of this lame-duck president telling them that it has let him down. If only he could tear up the Constitution and rule by diktat he might save himself a little disappointment. Alas, American democracy is a stickler for rules.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; obama; obamagunpresser; secondamendment
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To: apillar
It would have expanded background checks to people purchasing weapons at gun shows and online sales, enjoyed 90 per cent support among the public and came on the back of the tragedy at Newtown

One of those 3 is a lie.

A Member of Congress or a Senator would no more turn down something with 90% support than a crack whore would turn down $10.

61 posted on 04/18/2013 6:20:18 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Venturer

I fear the dem holdouts merely learned a lesson from the Obamacare vote. They just want some pork...and then they’ll change their vote.

Its not over yet.


62 posted on 04/18/2013 6:20:18 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: apillar

Ninety percent my ass.

But, even taking that at face value... on the heels of 9/11, more than 90% approved of the job performance of G.W. Bush. Did we not have a bit of a “cooling-off” period afterward? I’d say so.


63 posted on 04/18/2013 6:22:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: lacrew

Not by a long shot.

The gun grabbers are rabid, they will be bringing back gun confiscation over and over each time a new incident is reported. They have the cooperation of crazies who go on killing sprees, there will always be another one to bring the rabid gun grabbers back onto the floor.


64 posted on 04/18/2013 6:25:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: MrB

I guess the distinction I’m making is that the only thing that trumps their ideology is their desire to stay in power...

The statements don’t conflict.


65 posted on 04/18/2013 6:25:38 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.)
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To: apillar

“Gloating in victory, adolescent in defeat....” That is Mr. Mom Jeans.


66 posted on 04/18/2013 6:26:14 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: MrB
The reason he’s not as popular with the ‘rat/commie politicians is that he’s going too fast, turning up the heat on the frog too fast,...

That's because Obama and his inner circle are more Bolshevik than Fabian. They intend to push for as much as they can get as fast as they can get it because they have observed that the GOP never unwinds leftist successes. The ratchet only runs one way.

... waking the sleeping giant of patriotic opposition.

That giant better hit the shower and belt down some java real soon or he's gonna be late for work.

67 posted on 04/18/2013 6:28:53 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: grobdriver

That’s actually a very large sample size. Compare it to Presidential polls where they used 700 or so. I have no issue with the sample size as it makes it statistically relevant. Now, is it a “representative” sample is the key question.


68 posted on 04/18/2013 6:29:19 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: lacrew

My problem is Toomey and Manchin.....Joe Manchin I get, typical Mark Stupak liberal in conservative clothing....Toomey is a real disappointment....he should have known better...I will never feel the same about him again!!! I feel as though he was willing to throw us under the bus to get good press coverage, he needs to get a good scare come reelection time just to snap his ass back into line!!!


69 posted on 04/18/2013 6:29:39 AM PDT by ontap
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To: apillar
"Barack Obama is a lame duck president."

A wounded and even dying wild animal is still very dangerous.

But enjoy! He blew huge amounts of political capital on a failure. What Democrat in the Senate is going to follow him into the woods on his next hunt? They were bloodied over an attempt to overthrow a major component of the Bill Of Rights. Good. But that means far less followership on future adventures in mis-government.

70 posted on 04/18/2013 6:30:55 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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71 posted on 04/18/2013 6:31:36 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: ScottinVA
90% approved of the job performance of G.W. Bush

Don't forget his daddy had a 90% rating after the Gulf war!!!

72 posted on 04/18/2013 6:32:16 AM PDT by ontap
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To: apillar
"If only he could tear up the Constitution and rule by diktat he might save himself a little disappointment. Alas, American democracy is a stickler for rules."

If we weren't armed to the teeth, 0bama would surely give rule by diktat a try.

Indeed, he does daily already. See ICE enforcement.

73 posted on 04/18/2013 6:33:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: Uncle Miltie

So true...and I am loving seeing this bastard going down in flames......much more to come. anyone notice how quiet Hildabeast has been through this!!!


74 posted on 04/18/2013 6:34:19 AM PDT by ontap
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To: apillar

Yes, he’s VERY popular with his constituent base - so much so, in fact, that in the last election many of them voted for him two, three, or four times.


75 posted on 04/18/2013 6:47:21 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Barack Obama is a lame duck president."

A wounded and even dying wild animal is still very dangerous.

But enjoy! He blew huge amounts of political capital on a failure. What Democrat in the Senate is going to follow him into the woods on his next hunt? They were bloodied over an attempt to overthrow a major component of the Bill Of Rights. Good. But that means far less followership on future adventures in mis-government.

I'm hoping the beating he took on guns carries over to the "Illegal Amnesty" bill. But that is probably a bit too optimistic as the Republican's seeming almost giddy about throwing themselves over the cliff to permanent minority status by handing the democrat's 40 million new voters (after the 11 million current illegals bring in mama and papa and Cousin Pedro etc.)

76 posted on 04/18/2013 6:48:29 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

And the way its starting to look Obamacare may go away as well...I think as it rolls out the view will be more and more that its unworkable and ridiculous. Barry will continue his legacy of incompetent and unaccomplished. In the end I think he’ll pass as a bitter, shrill man who no one wants to be associated with.


77 posted on 04/18/2013 6:48:48 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: bryan999

78% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


78 posted on 04/18/2013 6:49:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: apillar

I can hardly wait to see it as an add-on to a bill that will provide compensation to the victims of the Boston Marathon. You know they’ll do something slimey like that.


79 posted on 04/18/2013 6:54:45 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: apillar

Obama lies and says it’s 90%. The liberal media repeat the lie like it is gospel. The idiot sheeple repeat the lie because if they heard it on the news it must be true. Then they blame the NRA.


80 posted on 04/18/2013 6:58:43 AM PDT by informavoracious (The ancient Greeks and Romans thought they were on the "right side of history.")
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