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Pa. man's apparent suicide leaves 3 others dead
Assoc. Press ^
| 04/17/2013
| MICHAEL RUBINKAM and RON TODT
Posted on 04/17/2013 1:59:27 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Suicide is a selfish cowardly act. How terrible that he took his family with him.
To: Responsibility2nd
Tragic stupid double Darwin award. Killed himself and his progeny.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:08:41 PM PDT
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: Responsibility2nd
Only selfish people off themselves.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:12:08 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
To: Responsibility2nd
Something’s not right here. Carbon Monoxide takes a while to kill you. Headache, dizziness and nausea occur way before death. Didn’t they even think to open the garage door?
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:12:38 PM PDT
by
refermech
To: refermech
At high enough concentrations simply inhaling can cause you to blackout. I have a cousin who simply walked into a room under construction, took a breath and passed out.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:15:05 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: refermech
garage door handle was knocked off. Still, it seems odd.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:17:51 PM PDT
by
Girlene
To: refermech
Article says he broke the handle off the garage door so it couldn’t be opened. Wife tried to break out a window but was overcome by fumes. Girls each tried to get out for fresh air but neither made it far.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:17:56 PM PDT
by
leapfrog0202
("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:20:44 PM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(My faith and politics cannot be separated)
To: driftdiver
Must have been very high concentration. As the oxygen was consumed in the garage by the running engine, the engine would run richer and richer causing even more CO to be produced. A real tragedy.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:23:01 PM PDT
by
refermech
To: refermech
That’s what I thought too. According to Wikipedia, concentrations of CO over 12000 ppm will lead to unconsciousness within two or three breaths, and death within a few minutes.
Since it has a greater affinity for hemoglobin than oxygen does, dragging the victim to open air and rescue breathing is not going to help a whole lot.
Note to self - no closed space, bad air rescues. Call 911, break windows, open doors. Wait.
To: heartwood
No kidding! Good advice. I’m pretty sure however that the only way to achieve those levels are the car/suicide scenario. Never seen anything even remotely close to that when I was doing heating service work. The products of combustion would have to be totally contained.
To: allmendream
“Tragic stupid double Darwin award. Killed himself and his progeny.”
FWIW regarding a phony award based on all phony stories, he would not be eligible, as he already procreated.
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posted on
04/17/2013 2:57:11 PM PDT
by
treetopsandroofs
(Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
To: treetopsandroofs
Not if his progeny dies along with him. Removed from the gene pool.
Bet the idiot didn’t realize he had three people willing to risk death to try to save him. Sad.
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posted on
04/17/2013 3:00:58 PM PDT
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: Responsibility2nd
this is so horrifyingly sad.....may God have mercy on his soul.....
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posted on
04/17/2013 3:10:04 PM PDT
by
cherry
To: refermech
I have a friends dad who started their car in the garage on a cold day, walked away for time then returned. Took a breath and passed out.
Mom noticed he was still home, went to the garage, saw him on the floor, tried to help but was overcome by fumes, too.
Tragic but it happens.
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posted on
04/17/2013 3:35:28 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
To: RedMonqey
That reminds me of this story I posted 4 years ago...
Family of 3 found dead (Car left running in Garage)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 04/24/2009 | By Jeorge Zarazua and Alejandro Martinez-Cabrera
Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 8:45:52 AM by Responsibility2nd
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2236828/posts
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posted on
04/17/2013 3:56:43 PM PDT
by
Responsibility2nd
(NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Only selfish people off themselves. They are usually very depressed.
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posted on
04/17/2013 4:00:29 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Moonman62
They are usually very depressed. Why didn't you say so?
That makes it OK then.
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posted on
04/17/2013 4:09:52 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
To: treetopsandroofs
The two daughters were adopted from China.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Only selfish people off themselves.
In this case, the guy was being selfish because he had a wife and daughters to care for, in addition to guaranteeing that they would be the ones to find the body.
However, people like you love to say that suiciders are selfish, without ever considering the selfishness of those around them who often leave their own loved-ones to rot or may even engage in enough cruelty to prompt such an attempt.
Is a teenager who kills himself after years of parental abuse selfish? Maybe, but not more so than the bastard of a parent who drove him to it. Is a husband and father who kills himself after a nasty divorce selfish? Maybe, but no more so than the bitch of a wife who left him and took their kids, falsely claiming spousal abuse or sexual abuse toward the kids in order to get the court to forbid the man to see his own children.
Your blanket statement is that of a self-righteous blowhard. You have no idea what some people go through, so you'd be best off leaving the judgment to God.
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posted on
04/17/2013 4:43:00 PM PDT
by
fr_freak
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