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To: Sub-Driver

Actually, the E-verify, the sealed borders, et al are already part of Federal Law in one form or fashion.

Rubio naively (I’m hoping its just that) is going back to the same things none of the other legislation assured, although it called for such.

He is also naive in thinking hispanics will vote for Republicans if he engineers this. It didn’t pan out for Reagan in 1986, nor will it now. His heritage is coloring his judgement, at least I hope so.

Finally, If I’m wrong on the above two counts, Rubio is just another effing slick talking politician trying to set him self up and secure, or advance, his position. In that regard, he can go to hell.

Come to think of it, there isn’t anything in his and his compadre’s bill that I want, except for closed borders, and we should have already had that.

In 2016, whoever the Republican Candidate is, it had better not be Rubio, or another with Rubio for VP, because I’m done with him and the Republican Party. I’ll just not vote that box.


3 posted on 04/14/2013 7:45:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Actually, the E-verify, the sealed borders, et al are already part of Federal Law in one form or fashion.

Correct, and NEITHER are being enforced! So I guess we have to pass another bill to fix the problem?!

We don't need a single new law in this country. Not for immigration, not for "gun control grabbing, not for anything. Simply enforce the laws already on the books is all that's required.

No more laws!

7 posted on 04/14/2013 7:49:28 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Gaffer
it had better not be Rubio, or another with Rubio for VP

He's not constitutionally eligible for either office. But since the Constitution is now ignored I guess it won't matter.

10 posted on 04/14/2013 7:50:52 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Gaffer; DManA; All

Rubio is not naive. He’s surrounded himself with the biggest amnesty pushers out there, including using SPLC talking points against any opposition.

Behind the scenes of Amnesty..

See, Who is Cesar Conda?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3007546/posts


19 posted on 04/14/2013 7:57:48 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Gaffer

ALL politicians shy away from any difficult duty. Its just part of their nature. That is why we had the amnesty in 1986 and we will have the larger amnesty in 2013 and then god knows what kind of amnesty in about 20 more years.

The preface to all discussions about immigration reform starts with the words “We cannot round up and deport 11-20 million illegals”. When in fact Ike proved that we certainly can. What they really mean is that they can’t or won’t take the heat from the MSM and La Raza for cracking down and doingwhat is necessary to make these people self deport.

The border between the US and Mexico will never be locked down its not going to happen and actually it doesn’t really need to happen. So no we don’t need a secure border to keep illegal immigration to a minimum.

We already have E-verify in place and it generally works pretty well. Add to that no education for the illegal kiddies, no renting to illegals, no drivers licenses, no welfare of any kind, no using the emergency room for a doctor’s office. Without a work visa you get nothing. Put these things in place and the number of illegals will diminish to minimal level.

So,”Immigration reform” is a false political solution not a real solution. It starts with the promise of securing the border first. WE all know that won’t happen. Then getting in line for citizenship. Getting in what line? They are already here living and working and getting the benefits. Now they will be able to bring their extended families who are still in other countries so immigration will really swell under the “immigration reform” not diminish. Basically the line starts in the front for all the 11-20 million mostly hispanics and their extended families still in other countries.

Studies have shown that only about 20% of hispanics have any interest in becoming US citizens. They are highly natonalistic and proud of their heritage. So that means that about 80% will stay in the shadows and continue to soak up the freebies.

Where does all this leave the millions of Irish, Russian, Romanian, Phillipino, Indonesian, Korean and Indian folks who have been waitig for years for their number to come and be allowed in legally? A high number of these folks have a good educatio and desireable skill sets.

The answer to this question cannot be repeated often enough. Politicians cannot or will not do a difficult job. They are all eager to get this problem behind them. The fact that it will rear its ugly head again in a few years is not important to them. By that time it will be somebody else’s problem.


45 posted on 04/14/2013 8:34:00 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Gaffer

I agree with EVERYTHING you said.

Here’s what Conservative republicans NEED to do.

The immigration policy IS broken in this country and conservatives need to grab this torch and run with it.

What Rudio, McCain, the Bushes and Obama talk about is NOT immigration it’s (as you said) Amnesty for Illegals. Illegals are those who skipped the immigration line and came here illegally.

Conservatives need to get exposure for the would be immigrants who LOVE the America that we love and have been waiting in line in their own countries to get the Tourist Visa, Work Visa, Fiancee Visa and Marriage Visa. They are the ones getting the short end of the stick because it’s almost impossible for them to come to the US even for a one week vacation. Conservatives need to jump on this unfairness. These America loving would be immigrants are victims of illegals who jumped ahead of them. These America loving would be immigrants are Venezuelans, Vietnamese, Thai, Taiwanese, Colombian and from many other nations.

Many of them have degrees and skills needed in this country but while some would love to live in this nation as a legal immigrant, many more want nothing more than to visit Disney World or visit our tourist spots and then return home.


88 posted on 04/14/2013 10:24:39 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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