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1,500 Page Immigration Bill to Drop One Day Before Only Hearing?
Breitbart - Big Government ^ | 4-13-2013 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 04/13/2013 3:00:16 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

According to an ABC News report, senators from the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” pushing immigration reform are expected to drop their bill, estimated at around 1,500 pages, on Tuesday, mere hours before the only scheduled Senate hearing on the topic.

“A bipartisan group of senators plans to introduce its long-awaited immigration bill on Tuesday, Senate sources confirmed to ABC News,” Jim Avila and Jordan Fabian wrote on Friday. “Four Democrats and four Republicans, known as the 'Gang of Eight,' wrapped up months of hard-fought negotiations this week and will put forth a bill that includes a pathway to citizenship for many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.”

If the Senators actually do wait until Tuesday to roll out their lengthy proposed overhaul of the U.S. immigration system, that will give members of the Senate Judiciary Committee less than a full day to read it before the only Senate hearing on the topic. Despite ardent pleas from Senate conservatives, including ranking Senate Judiciary Committee member Sen. Chuck Grassley, the committee’s chairman, Sen. Pat Leahy, has only agreed to one hearing on the legislation.

Leahy scheduled that single hearing for Wednesday at 2:30 PM, and the hearing’s sole scheduled witness is Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Napolitano would have less than a full day to read the bill she is scheduled to testify about.

“Gang of Eight” member Marco Rubio (R-FL) has said he supports multiple hearings and an open and transparent immigration reform process, but his actions do not necessarily back his words. He has not pushed Leahy to force multiple hearings; he appears content with the single hearing Leahy has scheduled on the issue and now appears to be backing down from his demand for multiple hearings.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; derelictionofduty; gangof8; gangofeight; immigration; immigrationbill; immigrationreform; obamabreakspromises; obamalied; reform; rewardillegality; shamnesty; signthebillblind; transparency; undocumenteddemocrat
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Did not know that, I am happy for him. Those guys on Shark Tank were assholes. All the guy wanted was to manufacture his product and create jobs in his hometown.

Good man.


61 posted on 04/13/2013 7:42:16 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Blood of Tyrants

According to senate rules if even 1 senator wants the bill read it must be read 3 times on the senate floor. All 1500 pages must be read aloud 3 times. In order to wave the reading of the bill the vote must be unanimous. Any 1 senator on our side can slow this down immensely just by asking for the obligatory reading.


62 posted on 04/13/2013 7:47:32 PM PDT by cdpap
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To: cdpap
Question?....Will at least one Senator have the conscious to do so? and will it be enough to change anyones mind? Often history changes on a dime....
63 posted on 04/13/2013 10:22:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sir Napsalot

The conservative right proved to the GOP that it would suck it up and accept anything they are shoveled last November.

We collectively brought this on ourselves through supporting them. People do not want to admit it publicly and shame themselves. So they go through mental gymnastics to deny it. But they know it’s the truth.

The GOP KNOWS we will bend over again and then vote for them in 2014 and 2016 because we lack the balls to do anything else. History has proven that time and again.


64 posted on 04/14/2013 1:09:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 3Fingas

“House republicans better stop this or they are through.”

Just like after the other few dozen times times people said that and then voted for a liberal abortion loving gay marriage gun controller?

Like that through’? No. They aren’t. Look at the threads on conservative sites with all the people still making excuses.


65 posted on 04/14/2013 1:17:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Luke21

I’ve recently been exposed to an epiphany on how others are thinking.

One manifestation of degenerate thinking is arrogance caused by a corrupt heart, which leads to future corrupt thinking when recalled as a problem solving device.

In my case, I have been exposed to bureaucrats who have worked so long implementing bilateral contracts without formal legal training, merely compliance to regulations, that they sincerely believe their bilateral contracts are unilateral contracts, and the signature of the other party merely establishes the beginning date of the contract.

It appears the legislative process has been left to people who sincerely don’t believe in our Constitution, but are acting upon other perspectives of their roles in society. I know they are corrupt in their thinking when they manifest arrogant behavior, but I have for many years assumed they simply act from a different perspective as equal as mine.

It becomes very apparent that they really, fundamentally don’t respect their fellow man as their equal or peer, but have quietly assumed their roles when they have been able to gain more power.

Their corrupt thinking when not held in check, and given more authority and power, simply further degenerates.

I suspect that even if 2/3 of the legislators were not corrupt and wanted to perform righteously, the processes and their resources will still carry them into a corrupt system of legislation.

It appears neither the Executive, nor Legislative Branches of government understand the difference between legislation and regulation, edict and elect, or execution and legislation. Worse still, I suspect the Judicial Branch is also similarly corrupt, confusing their role and authority with that of the other Branches.

When none think of their legitimate roles, but only of their daily process, their culture has lost integrity and will degenerate further.


66 posted on 04/14/2013 1:36:54 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: CutePuppy

Two thumbs way way up.

You should be the one replacing any on the Gang of Eight.


67 posted on 04/14/2013 3:43:28 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

No one reads it, no one has any idea whats in it but thier out promoting it. The scum is rising to the top at an alarming rate. We are being flanked from all sides


68 posted on 04/14/2013 3:44:47 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Norm Lenhart

It started long ago.


69 posted on 04/14/2013 4:45:18 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

Absolutely.

What I’m getting at is that today, they are so convinced of it that they run radical leftists for the top job and cave on so many core issues that they think nothing of doing it. 30 years ago, the farthest left Rockefeller Repub was far outside the mainstream/conservative side of the country/party. Sure there were a bunch, but look at the issues they pushed. Rabid conservatives by the standard of the Bhhner/McCain/Romney wing of today.

No GOP would or did so casually propose moderating on abortion and gay anything was shoved far into the closet.

But you are totally correct. the left swing did not start anytime recent. It just went into overdrive ‘mainstream’ fullmetal Democrat recently.


70 posted on 04/14/2013 4:55:09 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Sir Napsalot

It’s absolutely necessary that the whole country allow the most brilliant intellectual geniuses that ever walked the face of the earth to govern. We all don’t know what we’re doing.

Dontcha know, ya’know?

/s/

IMHO


71 posted on 04/14/2013 4:58:31 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Sir Napsalot; All
When / if the debate on the "immigration reform" starts, the Republicans should focus on and question the government's "Too Big, Too Failed" [ir]responsible border security and related security agencies such as Border Patrol, ICE, Treasury etc. and propose reform(s) that should involve assigning accountability for failure and restructuring of these agencies or the funding of other incentives and/or alternatives, as well as streamlining visa process and other immigration controls and procedures...

This would completely separate and clarify - for the public at large - the two unrelated issues, place the responsibility for the security and immigration failures where it belongs, and put the spotlight and the heat on the failures of the government to properly and constitutionally deal with both, thus completely changing the control of the agenda and putting the liberals and linguine-spined "moderates" of both parties on the defensive on the issue.

We could also point out that we've already had one similar "immigration reform" that completely failed in achieving its stated goals, so we need to fix the mistakes, not repeat them by encoding them in another law.

72 posted on 04/14/2013 5:06:20 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: a fool in paradise

he didn’t lie about transparency, you just parsed his words incorrectly. He meant that his administration would be the most transparent about their intent to implement communist rule over the USA!


73 posted on 04/14/2013 6:51:40 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And why? Like most/all ills in our Country: GOVERNMENT.

High regulatory compliance costs, high taxes (one of, if not THE, highest on the planet), OSHA, EPA, EEOC, and the list goes on.


74 posted on 04/14/2013 7:50:02 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: Sir Napsalot

What’s amazing is that Obama got elected twice, before an amnesty, without even needing the extra votes that he would have gained from an amnesty.

Folks, the transition by the tyrannical government-media-complex is complete and it wasn’t even close.

It was a rout.


75 posted on 04/14/2013 8:01:33 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: cdpap

Then why didn’t they do this for Obamacare?


76 posted on 04/14/2013 10:38:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It has mostly been a choice of dweedle-dumb and dweedle-dumber. We haven’t had a decent candidate for President since Ronald Reagan and even he was not perfect (remember the original amnesty, deficit spending etc.). Yes, I will continue to vote for the best choice possible in the next election cycle. The best chance we have to affect the process has always been in the primaries. I will try to help there.

I say that the Republicans are through, and quite possibly the long-term viability of our Republic, if they vote for amnesty is because no country can absorb 60 million (the press keeps saying 13 million, but with family members and the mad rush of illegals now running to the border the final number will 3 or 4 times the current estimates) new citizens all at once. It requires time and a willingness on the part of the new citizens to become Americans for immigration to be successful. In the case of this proposed amnesty, no matter what they call it, we have neither.

I say the Republicans will be through because, politically, this new group will most likely vote 80 percent democrat. The Republicans’ betrayal (just one in a long-line of many such betrayals) of hard-working, tax-paying patriots who will have to pay for the social programs to support a large portion of these new arrivals will cause many in our group to not vote or even start a third party movement. So, the Republicans had better stop this now if they want to survive as a party. So scared they are of projected demographics that they are willing to gamble our country’s future just to get a few days of positive press.


77 posted on 04/14/2013 11:03:45 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Just like the Patriot Act and Obamacare before it, and I’m sure the gun grabber bill after it, Shamnesty 2013 will be plopped on the table about an hour before the vote. Funny, our elected officials take all day debating whether Barry Bonds did steroids but whenever it comes to totalitarian legislation, it’s Congress Xpress!


78 posted on 04/14/2013 11:22:54 AM PDT by RobO1125 (Freedom:Socialism::Oil:Water)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Seems like some things never change.

Think Your Lawmakers Don't Read Bills?

When are people going to wake up to the fact that most of these politicians are POS corrupt bastards?

79 posted on 04/14/2013 9:49:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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80 posted on 04/14/2013 10:01:31 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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