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IRS claims it can read your e-mail without a warrant [Obama Treats 4th Amendment Like Toilet Paper]
CNET ^ | 4/10/13

Posted on 04/11/2013 6:47:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

The ACLU has obtained internal IRS documents that say Americans enjoy "generally no privacy" in their e-mail messages, Facebook chats, and other electronic communications.

The Internal Revenue Service doesn't believe it needs a search warrant to read your e-mail.

Newly disclosed documents prepared by IRS lawyers say that Americans enjoy "generally no privacy" in their e-mail, Facebook chats, Twitter direct messages, and similar online communications -- meaning that they can be perused without obtaining a search warrant signed by a judge.

That places the IRS at odds with a growing sentiment among many judges and legislators who believe that Americans' e-mail messages should be protected from warrantless search and seizure. They say e-mail should be protected by the same Fourth Amendment privacy standards that require search war

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amendment4; irs; irsemails; privacy; searchwarrant; taxes
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Disgusting.
1 posted on 04/11/2013 6:47:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I dont use my real name in setting up my email accounts so good luck with using those. I never trusted the internet.


2 posted on 04/11/2013 6:49:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And someone can follow your mail carrier around the sub division and stop at your mailbox immediately after it is deposited there and take it. It does not mean the addressee had no right to expect privacy.

If I ever get caught up in this with the IRS, I’m gonna fight it in court, hopefully getting some actual names of the IRS people involved.


3 posted on 04/11/2013 6:50:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoFloFreeper

Welcome to the USSA, comrades.


4 posted on 04/11/2013 6:51:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"DemocRATS! Doing all those illegal things we've been accusing Republicans of doing for years!"

"If you like your freedom and liberty, you get to keep it." - Barry Soetoro

5 posted on 04/11/2013 6:51:04 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I thought the new rules were that if you had ever taken meds for mental issues, you lost all rights. 2nd., 1st. etc. What does it matter? If your 2nd. Amendment rights can be taken away, why can’t they all be taken away???


6 posted on 04/11/2013 6:51:59 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m shocked, shocked I say to learn that the IRS is not following the rule of law and is not our friend.


7 posted on 04/11/2013 6:53:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They can snoop through everything about us, and we aren’t even allowed to see Ubama’s real birth certificate or Social Security Number.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 6:53:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: sickoflibs

The assclown and his cabal have worked to destroy the 1st amendment, 2nd, and now 4th.


9 posted on 04/11/2013 6:54:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I hope they like cute cat pics


10 posted on 04/11/2013 6:54:36 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: sickoflibs; All
I don't think it matters anymore.

After witnessing the videos of the smart missiles/bombs during "Desert Storm" I concluded the age of advanced electronics was here.

That was 20 some years ago, folks.

We're gettin' older.


You geeks have a better handle on computer/electronics than we drivers

11 posted on 04/11/2013 6:55:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because he doesn’t have them.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 6:56:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SoFloFreeper

They’ll work on the 3rd shortly as well...


13 posted on 04/11/2013 6:57:35 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Resolute Conservative

My point exactly.


14 posted on 04/11/2013 6:58:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Equating open communications like FB and Twitter to private channel communications like email is NOT a good thing.


15 posted on 04/11/2013 6:59:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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"Because he doesn’t have them."

Bingo! Is there anything about him that is real? Sometimes, I wonder if he is like that creation from WWII - The Man Who Never Was.

16 posted on 04/11/2013 7:01:57 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: SoFloFreeper
The answer to this is GPG encryption - free and unbreakable by any current technology. Download it. Install it. Generate a key pair. Distribute your public key to all the people you communicate with. Get their public keys in return. Encrypt all of your email messages. Problem solved
17 posted on 04/11/2013 7:06:15 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Actually, they are right. At least, so far as this tiny quote goes. You have no expectation of privacy when you send an email. Under the law, it is viewed differently than a letter, because a letter takes so much more effort to reproduce and send on to others.

If the IRS is saying they are allowed to monitor and scan every email in the US at all times, that is different. But if you email someone boasting of cheating on your taxes, you are taking a chance that email will be used as evidence. And if you post stuff on Facebook...you have no privacy rights. Just as you have no privacy rights to signs you post in your yard for others to read.


18 posted on 04/11/2013 7:06:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: knarf
RE :”You geeks have a better handle on computer/electronics than we drivers “

I am very careful about using my name and info on any webpage, and certainly not public posts like these not even facebook, and all my email accounts are free with madeup names.

But its my iphone 5 where I am the most careful, nothing identifying goes on that. No online banking.

Want privacy? Then encrypt your emails and even more important make sure your computer is virus protected or everything could be shared on it.

How is the IRS accessing this anyway?

19 posted on 04/11/2013 7:07:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
BTW - I forgot to add THE GOVERNMENT HATES GPG They've been trying to make it illegal and/or force the gpg developers to add a government back door for years.
20 posted on 04/11/2013 7:08:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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