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Be sure to read the article and the rest of the myths from source, it has lots and lots of links to the quotes used.

Now we only need Tom Stilson to explain DHS purchasing light armor vehicles myth.

1 posted on 04/05/2013 6:42:29 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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What’s to explain? DHS didn’t purchase them, the Marines did.


2 posted on 04/05/2013 6:43:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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It’s no myth that no one can get ammunition. Even Homeland Security. That fact demands an explanation. If our rulers fail to give us one don’t blame people for trying to come up with one themselves.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 6:46:13 AM PDT by DManA
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6 posted on 04/05/2013 6:48:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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This one baffles me. Why would any manufacturer sign a contract like this? They are obligated to invest in plant and materials to have on call massive amounts of product for a customer who might not buy any. Why would anyone give a discount to a customer like that?

FACT: The government purchases large quantities of ammunition in ID/IQ (Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity) orders, only guaranteeing to purchase as little as 1,000 or 100,000 rounds per year. The large orders lock in rates in the event ammunition prices increase as they have in recent years.

8 posted on 04/05/2013 6:50:49 AM PDT by DManA
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In fact, it is not even a purchase by DHS but by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Isn't ICE a part of DHS?

9 posted on 04/05/2013 6:52:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Two interesting points in the article:

1. The government has bought .22lr....I’m really curious as to why.

2. The government buys hollow points by the million, and as the article points out several times, 99% of this ammo is for training. I don’t train with hollow point, since I can’t afford it. Why does the government think it can afford it?


10 posted on 04/05/2013 6:53:39 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Page 19,999-Obamacare doesn’t cover “lead posioning!”


13 posted on 04/05/2013 6:56:25 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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Good luck with that. I tried a while back to show comparative orders under Bush and now and was shot down. The only thing that changed was going to 5 year contracts versus it was year by year. This does create a bottleneck with the suppliers but it isn’t the crazy, they are prepping for war on us stuff.


18 posted on 04/05/2013 6:59:59 AM PDT by mnehring
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nothing but more fear-mongering

Who orchestrating the fear-mongering? What is their motive?

Seems to me these boys are concocting a conspiracy theory in order to puncture a conspiracy theory.

19 posted on 04/05/2013 7:00:17 AM PDT by DManA
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Who bought all the rimfires and revolver ammunition? Who uses that much .38spl and .44spl anymore?


28 posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:06 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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Who you gonna’ believe?

Your own lyin’ eyes and ears or the people who burned down the Branch Davidian compound and used Army tanks to murder 82 men, women and children?

But remember, they did it “to save the children”.


41 posted on 04/05/2013 7:20:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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LISLE, Ill., Jan. 10, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Navistar Defense, LLC received a $880 million delivery order today to upgrade 2,717 International® MaxxPro® Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles. The order from the U.S. Marine Corps System Command calls for MaxxPro units to be upgraded with the company's rolling chassis solution. The award also includes engineering changes, supplies and services.

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Work will begin at the company's West Point, Miss., assembly facility in January 2012 and is scheduled for completion in October 2013.

Source


44 posted on 04/05/2013 7:23:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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The DHS contract never stated 750 million rounds

Someone needs to be held accountable for getting the facts of the story wrong by an order of magnitude? Who was it? Where did the billion number come from?

You can't just plop this meme out there and not tell us who is responsible. This is a badly written piece.

47 posted on 04/05/2013 7:25:20 AM PDT by DManA
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I agree that this is mostly due to ammo hoarding and the resultant outrageous doubling and tripling of costs to the average shooter.

Ammunition shortage fueled by rumor, fear [JUMP]Gun owners blame government, hoard bullets Gun owners blame government, hoard bullets

Posted April 4, 2013 at 11:02 p.m.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2013/apr/04/ammunition-shortage-fueled-by-rumor-fear-jumpgun/

50 posted on 04/05/2013 7:28:55 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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> "The orders included .22 LR, .44 Magnum, 7.62 x 39mm, .45 LC, and a variety of other popular calibers to be used at several Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers across the country by a wide variety of agencies and entities."

Why would the Government be buying .45 Long Colt cartridges? The others seem a little strange, but .45LC is beyond strange.

51 posted on 04/05/2013 7:30:16 AM PDT by jim_trent
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Looking for him to dispel the “myth” about 30,000 drones that will soon fly over our skies.


60 posted on 04/05/2013 7:53:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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The growing question: what does DHS need ammo for at all? Defense against whom? All scenarios we’re seeing & deriving target solid American citizens, and seem to ignore sworn enemies of the USA.


62 posted on 04/05/2013 7:54:22 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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ping


65 posted on 04/05/2013 8:03:54 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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Let me collate and translate the entire folio of DHS ammo articles for you.

1. We The People feel increasingly threatened and know for a fact that this government can no longer be trusted on any matter.

(This deep distrust comes from the massive load of insulting lies and transparent propaganda that We The People have been hammered with over the last 4+ years. Every statistic, every program, every promise, every speech, every press release is a distortion and has zero actual credibility.)

2. See point 1.

67 posted on 04/05/2013 8:17:05 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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After Janet said an airliner bomb failed, “because the system WORKED..!” (the bomb fizzled) and, “The border is as secure as it has ever been” you really don’t have to wonder any more about the veracity of all this.

The DHS harbors ill-will towards “civilians” [sic] and it has the same number of people as the USMC and TWICE it’s budget.


88 posted on 04/05/2013 11:59:19 AM PDT by gaijin
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