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The great gun control fizzle
Politico ^ | Thursday, April 4, 2013 | Rich Lowery

Posted on 04/04/2013 2:56:40 PM PDT by upchuck

Rarely has the political class whipped itself into a lather that has abated so quickly.

The president has certainly done his part. He has held rallies. He has used children as props. He has held events with parents of the little victims of Newtown. He has shamed the nation for its alleged forgetfulness over the terrible events of that day and urged members of Congress to “join me in finishing the job — for our communities and, most importantly, for our kids.”

The needle of public opinion is moving the wrong way. CBS News found that support for stricter guns laws dropped from 57 percent to 47 percent, and CNN from 52 percent to 43 percent.

The headline on a CNN story on the latest trend in polling was titled, Polls Suggest Congress Might Have Waited Too Long on Gun Control. It has waited all of four months.

But the assault weapons ban has been deep-sixed by Democrats in the Senate. Same with any limit on the size of magazines. The argument now is all about increasing the reach of background checks...

The gun control debate has shown the president again to be hopelessly detached as a legislative mechanic and ineffectual as a shaper of public opinion.

The president’s push for new gun laws looks, at this juncture, like a complete fizzle. He has failed to sway red-state Democrats and failed to maintain the heightened public support for new gun control laws. The most concrete effect of his advocacy has been, if the anecdotal evidence is to be believed, to stoke increased gun purchases on fears that the government wants to ban guns. He set out to lead a great crusade for gun control and ended up the best friend the gun industry ever had.

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment
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To: Owl558

Section 13 of the North Carolina constitution prohibits this. Therefore the state supreme court should nullify it.


41 posted on 04/04/2013 4:56:40 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: supercat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Fascist_corporatism


42 posted on 04/04/2013 5:03:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: upchuck

Background checks are totally worthless, just liberal feelgood nonsense. If a criminal is not legally allowed to own a firearm he’ll just go down to the ‘hood, or the trailer park, or the bodega, and buy one anyway. The black market is still thriving, and always will be.


43 posted on 04/04/2013 5:08:56 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: supercat

In early feudalism, it was pretty close. Feudal society was just gangs of armed men holding strong points. Most realized they needed serfs to grow food for them and their horses, so they had to protect their property (serfs) that were bound to the land. They had almost no restraints on their actions.

During the late medeival period, the church had some influence, but not very much.


44 posted on 04/04/2013 5:12:01 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: upchuck
He set out to lead a great crusade for gun control and ended up the best friend the gun industry ever had.

So he just moved the game into the UN. It never ends.

45 posted on 04/04/2013 5:18:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: TigersEye
I agree and the 2014 elections are going to be ... interesting.

Voting machines, same day registration, mail in ballots, no id checks, crooked AGs, corrupt precinct captains. What could go wrong?

46 posted on 04/04/2013 5:24:47 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: upchuck
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47 posted on 04/04/2013 5:26:21 PM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: itsahoot

OK


48 posted on 04/04/2013 5:31:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Owl558
Maybe a knowledgable 10th Amendment supporter can explain why the 10th Amendment doesn’t apply to the States on the issue of gun “control”.

That argument raged on FR a while back. Some argue for full restoration of 10th, the other group argued that the 14th gave the right back to the people.

In the end it doesn’t matter, it only matters what laws they choose to enforce and what they choose to ignore.

49 posted on 04/04/2013 5:35:39 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: vette6387
To those who are decrying what’s happened in CT, NY and CO, I would say wait until next year. Those state legislatures are going to get their collective pee pees whacked by the voters or the courts, or both!

It won't matter unless the laws they passed are repealed, otherwise those Democratic losses will just be viewed as "collateral damage" by the Left and in a few years they'll be back in power to further chip away at what's left.

50 posted on 04/04/2013 5:36:16 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: DeWalt
It doesn’t jive jibe with...
51 posted on 04/04/2013 5:40:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TigersEye
by Nov. 2014 they may have bled out if they don't do something to staunch it soon.

And there is no chance in he77 that Obama can get re-elected.I myself said that a card board cutout could win (on second thought that one may have been right) Freepers thought for years that both the Clinton's would wind up in jail, but alas, didn't happen.

We are up against a very powerful enemy, most don't recognize who it is.

52 posted on 04/04/2013 5:41:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

Alrighty.


53 posted on 04/04/2013 5:47:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye
If the GOP can't pick up seats right and left then they We are done.

Fixed it for you.

54 posted on 04/04/2013 5:49:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

Thanks.


55 posted on 04/04/2013 5:51:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: jespasinthru
Background checks are totally worthless, just liberal feelgood nonsense.

They get fees every time you buy a weapon. You buy one today and come back next week and pay i all over again. It is a tax source.

56 posted on 04/04/2013 5:52:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: upchuck

Much credit belongs to the NRA.


57 posted on 04/04/2013 6:09:34 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Enterprise

Thank you.


58 posted on 04/04/2013 6:42:41 PM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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To: True Grit

Yes it does. NRA bump!


59 posted on 04/04/2013 6:43:52 PM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you.


60 posted on 04/04/2013 6:49:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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