Posted on 03/31/2013 12:48:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
The archbishop of Washington says that while the church is welcoming of everyone, including gay people, he fears the possibility of the church’s position that marriage is only for a man and a woman will be seen as bigotry or hate speech.
Cardinal Donald Wuerl, appearing on Fox News Sunday, said the church can be welcoming of gay people who are legally married without recognizing those marriages within the church itself. …
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He should just say “YUK”.
Da ‘Burgh Bump! (He, the Cardinal Wuerl, was from Pittsburgh originally)
I ran into a gay priest once while travelling on leave ... they’re out there.
Cardinal Wuerl is the Catholic version of John Shelby Spong, just another Sixties-style leftwing idiot nutcake.
+ Dolan did similar tap-dancing on ABC.
I find it a very odd “coincidence” that each of these appearances on different networks had a homosexual focus. Sadly their mealey mouthed responses were not the least bit surprising.
Oh to have courageous and holy bishops who love not the acclaim of the world and feared not the rejection of worldly powers.
Benedict XVI called homosexual marriage a “threat to humanity.” These prelates should simply have repeated Benedict XVI and kept it at that or referred to the Catholic Catechism on homosexual relations.
A lot of folks don’t realize this, but “gay” “marriage” is the weapon the left will use to shut down Churches.
Failure to perform the “ceremony” will at first be used to deny tax exempt status to the Churches, and then they’ll be hauled in front of “human rights commissions”, broken financially and then have their Church’s property seized.
And open adulterers and fornicators, too, right? How about open racists? Thieves and perjurers?
Where does the "welcoming" of open and unrepentant sinners end?
This is a canard. Welcoming gays is not the purpose of the church. Welcoming people who realize they are sinners and are need of the grace of God is. Why are priests playing into this false meme? Do they ever say we just are welcoming enough to alcoholics? We aren’t welcoming enough to divorcees? We aren’t welcoming enough to fornicators? I mean really this is ridiculous and really calls into question the mental capacity of this priest. If I were in charge I’d remove him from his position for being stupid.
So, I guess he’s just going to ignore Chapter 5 of 1 Corinthians
What then? Do we see if the 1st Amendment actually means anything; or, will we see that the only speech rights, and right to practice our religion, we have are those approved of by left-wing activist groups?
He's correct when he says the Church allows ---in the door (sort of)--- people who are divorced-remarried, even though they are no more "married" in the eyes of God than two sexually disordered men. So the comparison was technically correct.
But then he turns the analogy in exactly the wrong direction when he says,
EXCUSE ME??? I am working RIGHT NOW with the long-term emotional heartache and grief of two divorced-remarried couples, RCIA students of mine who completed the whole course but could not receive any of the Easter Sacraments because their petitions of annulment have not gone through.
Mind you, I know the Church is right about this, because the Church DOES take marriage seriously. But it IS a great problem. a HUGE problem. It's not like they just have a paperwork glitch. Their whole life in the Church has been knocked clear off the track because they are living in --- well, adultery , to use the word used by Jesus Christ when He explicitly forbade divorce-remarriage.
Mind you, there may be findings of nullity in these cases, and things will begin to resolve and be hunky-dory. But there may not. And if the Church upholds the bond, these people are going to be out of the Sacraments until the former spouse dies, or the present spouse dies, or they decide to live together in sexual continence, or the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, whichever comes first.
It's hard. It's a BIG PROBLEM.
It fries my grits when "gay married couples" are given the equivalent of a lavender-love sparkle-sticker, while divorced/remarried heteros get the Scarlet Letter.
Again, the Church is right to uphold the sanctity of marriage in every case, and to insist on "Real Marriage, No Substitutes."
But Cardinal Wuerl makes it would like a footnote formatting error. "Never been a great problem," my asterisk.
Grrrr.
Alleluia.
Maybe he means those who were already Catholic, and then divorced and remarried, often outside the Church. They’re “under the radar.”
I sponsored a man through RCIA who was in a second marriage, as was his wife. They wanted so much to receive the Sacraments at the Easter Vigil that they made a full confession and agreed to live in continence until ... whenever. (I believe it was less than three months until the paperwork cleared.)
It IS a problem, and the message given by the acceptance of some couples openly in sin ... “We decided to get fixed because we are SO done having children!” ... while putting others through the wringer is that the Church is inconsistent and does not really care about marriage or chastity, except in cases where not caring would be too obvious and embarassing.
It’s hard for the Church in a “divorce culture.” People who, in good faith at the time, thought their first marriage was over find something different when they wish to become Catholics. However, saying that sodomitic sex does not create any relationship recognized by the Church - let alone marriage - should be EASY.
Yep. Remember the secret wedding scene in Braveheart? I think we're headed in that direction, in many respects.
The problem with the like of Cardinals Wuerl and Dolan is they get trapped in the elitist bubble that is Lower Manhattan and DC. Cardinal Wuerl was the one who transferred a visiting priest who refused to administer the Eucharist to a pro-abortionist.
Then we'll just go underground, but keep on trucking!
Cardinal Donald Wuerl, appearing on Fox News Sunday, said the church can be welcoming of gay people who are legally married without recognizing those marriages within the church itself.
So if I am a single man and masturbate I am guilty of a mortal sin. If I watch porn I am guilty of a sin. Before I can go to communion, I must confess this sin to a priest and do penance.
Now Father Wuerl will tell me to go and sin no more .
When he accepts these gay people into the Church is he not endorsing the sin? How can he welcome gay people without welcoming sodomy? He knows what these people are doing is against God’s laws. How can he welcome that? He has seen what Sodomy and Pedophilia have done to his Church, and he welcomes that?
I do not understand that. The Church is not indulging in hate speech when it rejects sodomy, it is enforcing out God’s Law, and there is no way in Heaven that Wuerl or anyone esle can preach Gods word and accept Homosexuality.
I ambegginning to thick of Cardinal wuerl as the John McCain of Catholicism.
Prepare for martyrdom, priest!
It is time these Catholic priests start talking about marriage for priests. They will understand why giving marriage between a man and a woman must be given exclusive treatment which is not hate speech—just as we give celibacy special treatment.
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