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To: Hodar

There is a difference between smart marketing and desperate pleas for attention, or, trying to get the biggest possible bang for the money you spent on VOGUE ads. Smart marketing means marketing that sells.

In terms of men’s clothes, I’d say Armani was the last line that really dominated the category of suits, for instance. Though I didn’t like ‘em, many men did and do, and the line was marketed brilliantly. And you know what? elegance, fit, and finish were the hallmarks: clothes which (like that YSL dress) just felt perfect. And Armani suits and lines (the ‘look’) never fell out of fashion, which is to say they still sell and have carved a category for themselves in concrete. (like so many matching shoes. Hey, Fuggedaboudit!)

Manson’s face and associated Laurent line is a study in imperfection, awkwardness, outlandishness, and discomfort. It is the opposite of timelessness, or true style, and destined to return to the dumpster.

I think there is something to be said for retiring a name when the inheritors don’t have the class, moxie, talent, or strength of will to hold to core values.


14 posted on 03/30/2013 10:19:02 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
I hear you loud and clear on the Armani line.

Back when I was single and a lot more affluent, I had 1 Armani suit. The material is most certainly superior to most any other materials used in suits today. Extremely wrinkle resistant, had a "depth", wore very well. Armani suits seem almost exclusively designed for the "athletic" build. If you get the bear belly, it's time for the consignment shop. But, when I was 24-30; it was by far the best suit I ever owned. Spent years in the closet and then was given to my son-in-law decades later. And it STILL looks stunning.

Manon's frame is not at all flattering for a suit. Awkward at best.

But, this statement says it best - I could neither have said it better, nor more succinctly:

I think there is something to be said for retiring a name when the inheritors don’t have the class, moxie, talent, or strength of will to hold to core values.

19 posted on 03/30/2013 10:30:34 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: golux; Revolting cat!
Manson’s face and associated Laurent line is a study in imperfection

He looks like the sort of woman you'd see on courtroom tv for killing her child.

22 posted on 03/30/2013 10:56:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: golux

Paul Bosch once did a tv commercial for a jewelry store in which he wore a pair of earrings. He turned his head and said "if they make my ears look this good, think of what they'll do for hers!"

But the jeweler certainly wasn't trying to start a trend.

24 posted on 03/30/2013 11:01:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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