Posted on 03/30/2013 9:48:37 AM PDT by giant sable
The Department of Labor estimates that some three million Americans with Bachelor degrees work in jobs that dont require an education at alljanitors, barristas, bartenders and retail clerks.There are a lot of obvious reasons why junior is now living in your basement at age 25.
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I work at a “tech” job and consider myself “blue-collar.” I get the best of both worlds.
“USE the math in a field that needs it: engineering of some type”
Yes, exactly Elsie, as part of something less purely academic. We need good teachers, for example. Engineers do amazing things with math. Those entering college maybe need to do their homework a little better.
i started cutting my cousins hair too and he buys me dinner once a year, if the state ever finds out they'll prolly say i need a license!
License aside, the dinner is taxable as income.
“A good writer is gold.”
Your future boss will be amazed you know the difference between their, they’re, and there, to, two and too, passed and past, a, an, and and.
Its a hugh and series problom in todays worked place.
[ how you could have stopped anything that produced a product that is stored in a digital format, from being outsourced,]
Well, specifications contractually tied to measurable performance requirements that must be satisfied prior to payment might be a good start.
Organizations that are too stupid to make such an arrangement typically find out the hard way how things work when the checks have been cashed and all they have in return is a million lines of blue-screen inducing spaghetti code.
BS = Bovine Scatology
MS = More Of The Same
PHD = Piled Higher & Deeper
And there you have it...
Regards,
GtG
Yes. I always hear that, too. But it's false. It comes down to individual initiative. A brother-in-law has a degree in psychology, but is only a TSA agent. He was a car salesman before that, and before that was selling cellphones at a kiosk. Lazy jerk, he's also an idiot lib. Oh, he's in bankruptcy and blames the economy for his free-spending habits (flying 1st class, expensive hotel vacations, lattes and restaurants every day, etc.). Says the economy was supposed to turn around so he could pay his debts!
I know plenty of people without degrees who live well, finding good jobs and making good money, because they aren't lazy, and they spend within their means. And they aren't stupid libs.
Well, I’m certainly not going into THAT industry.
I live east of Seattle, literally in the heart of Microsoft country.
Last time I heard, 50% of the programmer jobs in this area are held by foreign born workers.
The Center for Immigration Studies did a survey in 2012 and discovered that millions of USA born STEM graduates were unemployed or working in a non-tech job.
In spite of that, Bill Gates never misses an opportunity to beg Congress for more STEM work visas.
Just as crazy, when he speaks at the UW Computer Science Department, the kids treat him like a rock star, even though he is avidly working to crush their pay scale and job opportunities!
Ok, that makes way more sense. ;-)
There re some areas where you must have a degree.
Really hard to walk into a science lab and say “hey, I want to be a material scientist or a hospital and go, I always liked cutting stuff up, think I could handle orthopedic surgery”.
"...But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."
Uh... because there isn’t much demand for Liberal Arts at the best of times, and with Obama seeking to destroy the economy to foment his Marxist revolution, there’s slim chance or none.
THIS.
Apparently, an actuarial student needs to have 3+ years of actuarial experience to get an entry level job.
Among other things, this one is a killer.
That is sad, indeed. (I rather blame texting for a lot of the laziness with literacy [I won't mention public education, as I don't want to rant].)
Thank you.
I live east of Seattle, literally in the heart of Microsoft country.
Microsoft gets mixed feelings from me; on one hand they've been very good at getting things standardized, they've put out some good stuff (Win 98SE was excellent, especially when you consider it's minimum requirements). -- On the other hand they're really bad at presenting a stable platform {MFC, WPF, lack of Dotnet on Win8, etc} for people to use. {This is especially true for users of MS Office [full] who depend on Access.}
Last time I heard, 50% of the programmer jobs in this area are held by foreign born workers.
Mixed feelings there; some foreign-born guys are absolutely brilliant -- others not so much.
The Center for Immigration Studies did a survey in 2012 and discovered that millions of USA born STEM graduates were unemployed or working in a non-tech job.
That's really puzzling: the reason you get an engineering or math degree is to be ever-employable. -- The hard-sciences aren't easy, but they should confer some benefit.
In spite of that, Bill Gates never misses an opportunity to beg Congress for more STEM work visas.
Gates has done some dumb things; but he's also done some great things too. I expect that, should I ever become rich & famous for above-average competency people would have complaint against me as well... So I won't say much there.
Just as crazy, when he speaks at the UW Computer Science Department, the kids treat him like a rock star, even though he is avidly working to crush their pay scale and job opportunities!
... Wirth would be better treated as a rock star, IMO. While he gets a lot of name recognition for Pascal, he also developed entire systems, the latest to my knowledge being Oberon.
And on that tangent: I heard that the 1.0 version of Windows was written in Pascal; I also heard from a fellow freeper who audited Windows between 3.11 and Win95 and his company advised the codebase be written in Ada. I do wonder what the state of computing today would be if either of those had stuck [Windows would likely never have gotten the unsecure/buffer-overflow reputation, for one].
The society which scorns excellence in plumbing as a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.
John W. Gardner
That is a great quite.
Thank you for sharing it.
Should we use government to compel businesses to bring back all exported jobs?
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