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Why Your Kid Can't Get A Job
Forbes.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | Michael S. Malone

Posted on 03/30/2013 9:48:37 AM PDT by giant sable

The Department of Labor estimates that some three million Americans with Bachelor degrees work in jobs that don’t require an education at all–janitors, barristas, bartenders and retail clerks.There are a lot of obvious reasons why junior is now living in your basement at age 25.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: application; bhoeconomy; employment; generationy; resume; youth
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To: cripplecreek

I work at a “tech” job and consider myself “blue-collar.” I get the best of both worlds.


81 posted on 03/30/2013 12:49:20 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Elsie

“USE the math in a field that needs it: engineering of some type”

Yes, exactly Elsie, as part of something less purely academic. We need good teachers, for example. Engineers do amazing things with math. Those entering college maybe need to do their homework a little better.


82 posted on 03/30/2013 12:52:31 PM PDT by Owl558 (Think twice before speaking once)
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To: Elsie
good deal indeed... i only cut my hair four times a year(winter, spring, summer, fall) so it took longer but about the same price, i think i paid $45 or $50 back in 1980

i started cutting my cousins hair too and he buys me dinner once a year, if the state ever finds out they'll prolly say i need a license!

83 posted on 03/30/2013 12:54:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

License aside, the dinner is taxable as income.


84 posted on 03/30/2013 12:57:18 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“A good writer is gold.”

Your future boss will be amazed you know the difference between their, they’re, and there, to, two and too, passed and past, a, an, and and.

Its a hugh and series problom in todays worked place.


85 posted on 03/30/2013 1:05:34 PM PDT by Owl558 (Think twice before speaking once)
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To: bert
what isn't in NewYork???
86 posted on 03/30/2013 1:19:49 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: dfwgator

[ how you could have stopped anything that produced a product that is stored in a digital format, from being outsourced,]

Well, specifications contractually tied to measurable performance requirements that must be satisfied prior to payment might be a good start.

Organizations that are too stupid to make such an arrangement typically find out the hard way how things work when the checks have been cashed and all they have in return is a million lines of blue-screen inducing spaghetti code.


87 posted on 03/30/2013 1:37:48 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Evidently manufacturing a generation of Useful Idiots who cheated/staggered their way through bidness school whilst decorating the internet with pornographic imagery of their frat-punk brethren and soro-sisters did not much of a future make.

BS = Bovine Scatology

MS = More Of The Same

PHD = Piled Higher & Deeper

And there you have it...

Regards,
GtG

88 posted on 03/30/2013 1:48:05 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: autumnraine
And yet I STILL hear that you can’t live well without a degree.

Yes. I always hear that, too. But it's false. It comes down to individual initiative. A brother-in-law has a degree in psychology, but is only a TSA agent. He was a car salesman before that, and before that was selling cellphones at a kiosk. Lazy jerk, he's also an idiot lib. Oh, he's in bankruptcy and blames the economy for his free-spending habits (flying 1st class, expensive hotel vacations, lattes and restaurants every day, etc.). Says the economy was supposed to turn around so he could pay his debts!

I know plenty of people without degrees who live well, finding good jobs and making good money, because they aren't lazy, and they spend within their means. And they aren't stupid libs.

89 posted on 03/30/2013 2:05:33 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Elsie

Well, I’m certainly not going into THAT industry.


90 posted on 03/30/2013 2:12:22 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: OneWingedShark
You have my sympathy, shark.

I live east of Seattle, literally in the heart of Microsoft country.

Last time I heard, 50% of the programmer jobs in this area are held by foreign born workers.

The Center for Immigration Studies did a survey in 2012 and discovered that millions of USA born STEM graduates were unemployed or working in a non-tech job.

In spite of that, Bill Gates never misses an opportunity to beg Congress for more STEM work visas.

Just as crazy, when he speaks at the UW Computer Science Department, the kids treat him like a rock star, even though he is avidly working to crush their pay scale and job opportunities!

91 posted on 03/30/2013 2:19:19 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: AntiKev

Ok, that makes way more sense. ;-)


92 posted on 03/30/2013 2:23:10 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

There re some areas where you must have a degree.
Really hard to walk into a science lab and say “hey, I want to be a material scientist or a hospital and go, I always liked cutting stuff up, think I could handle orthopedic surgery”.


93 posted on 03/30/2013 2:25:59 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw
“hey, I want to be a material scientist or a hospital and go, I always liked cutting stuff up, think I could handle orthopedic surgery”.

"...But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

94 posted on 03/30/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: giant sable

Uh... because there isn’t much demand for Liberal Arts at the best of times, and with Obama seeking to destroy the economy to foment his Marxist revolution, there’s slim chance or none.


95 posted on 03/30/2013 3:00:58 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Txngal
You have to have x years experience in x industry to get an entry level job.

THIS.

Apparently, an actuarial student needs to have 3+ years of actuarial experience to get an entry level job.

Among other things, this one is a killer.

96 posted on 03/30/2013 3:09:45 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: Owl558
I’ve been a hiring IT and technical people for the last 20 years. I’ve hired a few writers, but not a lot - and never a philosophy grad.
I can say that in my experience writing is what used to seperate the college grad from the rest, regardless of the degree. That is less the case today. Sadly. A good writer is gold.

That is sad, indeed. (I rather blame texting for a lot of the laziness with literacy [I won't mention public education, as I don't want to rant].)

97 posted on 03/30/2013 3:12:31 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: zeestephen
You have my sympathy, shark.

Thank you.

I live east of Seattle, literally in the heart of Microsoft country.

Microsoft gets mixed feelings from me; on one hand they've been very good at getting things standardized, they've put out some good stuff (Win 98SE was excellent, especially when you consider it's minimum requirements). -- On the other hand they're really bad at presenting a stable platform {MFC, WPF, lack of Dotnet on Win8, etc} for people to use. {This is especially true for users of MS Office [full] who depend on Access.}

Last time I heard, 50% of the programmer jobs in this area are held by foreign born workers.

Mixed feelings there; some foreign-born guys are absolutely brilliant -- others not so much.

The Center for Immigration Studies did a survey in 2012 and discovered that millions of USA born STEM graduates were unemployed or working in a non-tech job.

That's really puzzling: the reason you get an engineering or math degree is to be ever-employable. -- The hard-sciences aren't easy, but they should confer some benefit.

In spite of that, Bill Gates never misses an opportunity to beg Congress for more STEM work visas.

Gates has done some dumb things; but he's also done some great things too. I expect that, should I ever become rich & famous for above-average competency people would have complaint against me as well... So I won't say much there.

Just as crazy, when he speaks at the UW Computer Science Department, the kids treat him like a rock star, even though he is avidly working to crush their pay scale and job opportunities!

... Wirth would be better treated as a rock star, IMO. While he gets a lot of name recognition for Pascal, he also developed entire systems, the latest to my knowledge being Oberon.

And on that tangent: I heard that the 1.0 version of Windows was written in Pascal; I also heard from a fellow freeper who audited Windows between 3.11 and Win95 and his company advised the codebase be written in Ada. I do wonder what the state of computing today would be if either of those had stuck [Windows would likely never have gotten the unsecure/buffer-overflow reputation, for one].

98 posted on 03/30/2013 3:31:23 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 21twelve
“The society which scorns excellence in plumbing as a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.”

John W. Gardner

That is a great quite.
Thank you for sharing it.

99 posted on 03/30/2013 3:34:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Frankly because the factory was sent elsewhere. We need to stop exporting jobs, and bring them back.

Should we use government to compel businesses to bring back all exported jobs?

100 posted on 03/30/2013 3:35:42 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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