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Why Your Kid Can't Get A Job
Forbes.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | Michael S. Malone

Posted on 03/30/2013 9:48:37 AM PDT by giant sable

The Department of Labor estimates that some three million Americans with Bachelor degrees work in jobs that don’t require an education at all–janitors, barristas, bartenders and retail clerks.There are a lot of obvious reasons why junior is now living in your basement at age 25.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: application; bhoeconomy; employment; generationy; resume; youth
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To: listenhillary

Hehe.

:) Don’t get me started.


101 posted on 03/30/2013 3:39:42 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: giant sable

When Obama talks about how he wants college for every living American kid, can someone have the freaking guts to ask him, “Why???”

It’s not the 1950s. College does two things to a middle class or lower kid: put him in debt for decades, and indoctrinate him with useless old fashioned communist thinking.

Anyone heading to a university these days should find a very practical useful degree. There are few of them.


102 posted on 03/30/2013 3:51:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: listenhillary; Cringing Negativism Network
We need to stop exporting jobs, and bring them back.

We are NOT EXPORTING JOBS. We are buying products from the cheapest source. That the American manufacturing sector has gone offshore only means that the cost to produce goods has become too much within our borders.

Due to such ridiculous gum't policies such as minimum wages, unionism, overburdened with excessive, and often unfounded, regulation, and now with the added expenses of ObamaCare, it will increase production here, but move more away.

The nature of business is to make a profit for the investor(s), not to PROVIDE JOBS. Any argument otherwise is simply naivety expressed as caring. There is no cogent argument for asking businesses to do anything about jobs creation. It is the rejection of high-cost American production that causes people to buy Chinese goods (or Indian, Mexican, or any other foreign sources).

I remember my first transistor radio. It was 'Made in Japan'! The quality was far superior to anything found within our borders. Even today, lots of Americans drive Honda, Toyota, and other Japanese cars, and Mercedes still brings a premium price, due to quality, quality, and quality.

They have said, "don't buy a Chevy made on Monday or Friday..."

Unions, ya' know!

103 posted on 03/30/2013 4:10:41 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("...once a bell is rung by a biased media, itÂ’s impossible to un-ring it."-Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: OneWingedShark
Why am I here?

The World needs to know your answer!

104 posted on 03/30/2013 4:14:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Yaelle

After ten years in the workplace; just what % of college graduates are working in their degree?


105 posted on 03/30/2013 4:16:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: listenhillary

yours especially


106 posted on 03/30/2013 4:22:51 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing--- Joe Pine)
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To: OneWingedShark

“I rather blame texting for a lot of the laziness with literacy.”

That and lots of immigrants doing fine work to whom english is a second language. It’s something you have to practice. Like cursive writing.


107 posted on 03/30/2013 4:24:05 PM PDT by Owl558 (Think twice before speaking once)
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To: zeestephen

“Last time I heard, 50% of the programmer jobs in this area are held by foreign born workers.”

From the local demographics that is probably close. Why is that? I know Gates is always bemoaning the lack of education, but there has to be more to it than that.

Tax credits?
Benefit rules?
Harder working?

I’m pretty sure it isn’t because they can pay them less with all of the twenty-something foreigners driving their fancy cars around here.


108 posted on 03/30/2013 4:24:15 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

That’s simply not true. Of my children’s friends, I know *one* who is going for an art degree. The rest went into welding, auto mechanics, engineering, computers, diesel mechanics, etc.

The problem is that these kids have to pay for a degree instead of working an apprenticeship. By the time they get out, they have $10-25,000 in debt... to learn a TRADE.

Then they apply for entry-level jobs the the employers (who wanted the degree for an entry-level job) don’t want to pay them more than $10 an hour.

How can a kid pay off that kind of debt on that wage? To top it off, it’s getting harder and harder to even find a full-time entry-level job.


109 posted on 03/30/2013 5:13:38 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: svcw

“You are not a kid at 25”

That as a universality is a highly debatable assertion.


110 posted on 03/30/2013 5:38:49 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: dennisw

yours especially

What mean you say?


111 posted on 03/30/2013 5:44:44 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Marie
How can a kid pay off that kind of debt on that wage? To top it off, it’s getting harder and harder to even find a full-time entry-level job.

Try North Dakota craigs list under "skilled" and also "transport"

Also any other shale oil area....

East Texas, West Texas, New Mexico,Wyoming, Colorado, Pennsylvania, just google "oil shale map" for exact locations.

Top job is a wireline operator....well into 6 figures.

112 posted on 03/30/2013 5:48:40 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: TArcher
M.ore

B.ullshyte

A.head?

Evidently manufacturing a generation of Useful Idiots who cheated/staggered their way through bidness school whilst decorating the internet with pornographic imagery of their frat-punk brethren and soro-sisters did not much of a future make.

I have a B.S. in accounting and an M.B.A. in finance and retired early and live comfortably on an acreage in the country. I know petroleum accountants with M.B.A.'s who are CEO's. I detect quite a bit of class envy in your screed.

113 posted on 03/30/2013 5:53:30 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: spokeshave
Here you go...top 4 jobs today.

**SHOP MECHANIC - OILFIELD** (TIOGA, NORTH DAKOTA)

OIl And Water CDL Drivers (Belfield ND)

Great Opportunity for Class A CDL Driver to Haul Crude (Stanley/Willisont, ND)

Class A CDL Drivers Needed to Haul Crude Oil (Stanley/Williston, ND)

Class A CDL Drivers to Haul Crude (Stanley & Williston, ND)

114 posted on 03/30/2013 5:54:04 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Owl558

You can turn an engineer into a good writer. The opposite is not true.


115 posted on 03/30/2013 6:08:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WVKayaker
Of the retail price of an average car, say the list is 20k, what is the amount of the msrt that covers labor costs?

Answer: less that 7 percent.

What is the percent of the private sector workforce that is union? Answer: less than 6 percent.

We are selling out our manufacturing base to our enemies for pennies on the dollar. What fools we are.

116 posted on 03/30/2013 6:16:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Where did you get your figures?


117 posted on 03/30/2013 6:25:40 PM PDT by kempo
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To: kempo
From the BLS. Link: click here.
118 posted on 03/30/2013 6:39:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: OneWingedShark

With more and more people looking for fewer and fewer positions, managers have gotten even worse with looking for a specific exact resume with a specific set of ticky marks. If you don’t hit what they think they are looking for in the phrasing that they are looking for, only a few know what to do with you enough to even process what value you might bring to the organization.

Knowing how to think is something that can definitely be gotten from studies of philosophy. On the other hand, I’ve seen a lot of people go through philosophy studies, and only understand the intricacies of historical philosophical constructs and be unable to produce any definitive output of thought.

For me myself, the most useful class I ever had for my career was chemistry, with a hat tip to statistics. Even though I only rarely touch upon chemistry even remotely at work, the thought processes of being methodical, meticulous, precise, and keeping good documentation - along with my love of epistemology, and my esoteric reading habits – have helped me compare quite favorably with the people sitting next to me with theoretically relevant masters degrees.


119 posted on 03/30/2013 6:41:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kempo
After much research in this area it seems the auto industry doesn't want anyone to know the per vehicle labor cost. The UAW says 10 percent which is a figure no one seems to contradict.

"Even the roar from Congressional critics about assembly line largesse seemed to miss the fact that (according to the UAW) labor costs account for about 10 percent of the cost of producing a vehicle; the remaining 90 percent includes research and development, parts, advertising, marketing and management overhead."

Link here.

120 posted on 03/30/2013 6:48:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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