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Why We Are Losing Debate Over Same-Sex Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | Mona Charen

Posted on 03/29/2013 12:09:41 PM PDT by Kaslin

Same-sex marriage is probably inevitable in America whatever the Supreme Court decides. That's because the public is clearly leaning that way. That the court is even being asked to impose a sweeping social change on the nation is illustrative of another lost battle -- the idea that the Supreme Court is not a super-legislature and that nine robed lawyers ought to refrain from imposing their policy preferences on the whole nation.

Even two liberal justices, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, have from time to time expressed caution about the Court imposing its will on matters better left up to the people and their elected representatives. It will be interesting to see whether those prudential considerations come into play in their decisions in these cases or whether the desire for a particular outcome overwhelms concerns about the Court's proper role. Too few Americans recognize this for what it is -- a loss of sovereignty.

Champions of same-sex marriage are carrying the day for a number of reasons. 1) The advocacy embedded in popular entertainment, such as "Modern Family" and "Brokeback Mountain" has been funny, touching and disarming. 2) Proponents of same-sex marriage appear to be asking for simple justice. 3) Americans would rather stick pins in their eyes than willingly hurt anyone's feelings. 4) Proponents seem to be embracing the conservative value of marriage.

Beyond all of those factors, though, the most potent argument in the SSM quiver is the race analogy. During oral argument at the Supreme Court, advocates argued (as they have elsewhere) that impairing the right of homosexuals to marry is analogous to proscribing interracial marriage. If that's true, it's game, set and match. If SSM is like interracial marriage, then the only possible motive for opposing it is bigotry.

Liberals slip on this argument like a comfortable sweater. It's easier to impugn the good faith of your opponents than seriously to grapple with their arguments. Oppose forcing Catholic institutions to distribute free contraceptives? You hate women. Oppose changing the definition of marriage? You hate gays.

To understand opposition to SSM, you must credit that it isn't about gays; it's about the institution of marriage, which is the foundation of our civilization. Advocates demand: "How does permitting gays and lesbians to get married hurt your marriage?"

It's the wrong question. Forty years ago, when illegitimacy was picking up steam in the U.S., conservatives expressed alarm. Liberals responded that traditional families weren't important -- that the only thing that mattered to children was love. Those who argued that the stigmas against divorce and unwed childbearing served important social functions were dismissed as Victorians or bigots. To decry the rise of illegitimacy was to be accused of insensitivity.

That experiment with alternative family structures didn't go well -- as all but the most benighted now acknowledge. The rate of illegitimate births in the U.S. is now 51 percent for women between 20 and 30. It's a slow-motion disaster for children, for parents and for the nation.

So how can those who value marriage object to offering its stability to a group that wants to marry? It's a reasonable question. What we do know is that changing the definition of marriage from a lifelong, exclusive commitment between husbands and wives to an expression of feeling between two adults has not gone well, feelings being mercurial. Enshrining SSM furthers that redefinition.

It may be that when SSM is widely available, same-sex couples will adopt exactly the same standards about commitment and parenthood that male/female couples practice (and, despite the alarming statistics, most still do). But it's also possible that gays will bring to marriage very different expectations. Andrew Sullivan, one of the fathers of the SSM movement, has noted that gay unions are more "open" and "flexible" than straight ones. If that's true, and surveys suggest that it is, will that affect the likelihood that married gay couples will stay together? We don't know. Will it adversely affect any children in the home? Again, unknown.

Nor do we know whether purposely denying to children of same-sex couples a parent of each sex is damaging. Does having two fathers erase the need for a mother or vice versa? It's too early in the history of this experiment to know.

What we do know is that traditional families featuring the lifelong, exclusive commitment of husband and wife are best for children and for society. Gays and lesbians are not responsible for the mess that our culture has made of family life. But perhaps they can understand that resisting its further redefinition is not bigotry but prudence.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americanculture; debate; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; legitimacy; marriage; monacharen; samesexmarriage; ssm; supremecourt; traditionalfamily
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To: bert
I don't disagree with you, but don't oversimplify this along geographic lines, either.

This isn't a function of geography, but urbanization. You'll find the same prevailing political attitudes and cultural decay in almost any large urban area of the U.S.

81 posted on 03/30/2013 7:03:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Olog-hai

That’s exactly what I’m talking about.

It’s much more comforting to believe in massive fraud on a nationwide scale. But come on. We have to open our eyes at some point.

As Rush says, we have lost this argument. And we lost it, I believe, because conservatives have retreated to the echo chamber, only speaking to those who already agree with us and only listening to people who tell us we want to hear, regardless of its veracity.

We need to accept the world as it really is before we can begin to take back the culture. Nowhere is this more evident than gay marriage. We keep losing the argument as we double down on the same failed tactics. Meanwhile, out in the real world, the American public in general doesn’t have a great problem with gay marriage anymore. They don’t have a great problem with gay adoptions, which are legal now in half the states!

That doesn’t mean change what we believe in, but it does mean changing our message to reach the people we need to reach. That can’t happen if we stick our heads in the sand.

It reminds me of Romney, who actually believed all those stupid “un-skewed” polls. He listened to the echo and hardly bothered in the last weeks of the campaign because he thought he was so far ahead.

How’d that turn out for Romney? How’s our opposition to gay marriage turning out for us?


82 posted on 03/30/2013 9:08:40 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

The argument was never made. That is what is the failed tactic.


83 posted on 03/30/2013 9:57:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, because we spend too much time talking to ourselves and not enough engaged with the world outside.

Worse yet, we’re being bilked by the people who are selling us what we want to hear. People like Morris and Rove who don’t care a whit for our political success but just want our money.

That’s a relatively new phenomenon for our side, and not, I think, a good one.


84 posted on 03/30/2013 7:34:19 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Kaslin; xzins; marron
I've absolutely had it with people controlling the dictionary in an attempt to change the faith and morals of a whole culture!

Indeed — this sort of thing is getting really tiresome. If we cannot agree that words have constant meanings over time, what does that do to our ability to reason and communicate with each other?

And so, I wholly agree with you:

...no matter what a State law may dictate — or the Supreme Court may rule — I will not refer to a same sex union as a marriage thereby implying any moral equivalency.

May God's blessings be with you on this holy day, dearest sister in Christ!

Christ is risen! Alleluia!!!

Thank you so very much for your astute analysis and trenchant essay/post!

85 posted on 03/31/2013 7:16:23 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Kaslin
Why We Are Losing Debate Over Same-Sex Marriage

Because insanity has taken over reason.

86 posted on 03/31/2013 1:51:45 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Smart Grid is Stupid)
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To: Kaslin

It’s because America does whatever their TVs tell them to. It’s that simple. TV has brainwashed our culture to accept homosexuality amongst a long list of other evils.


87 posted on 03/31/2013 2:19:29 PM PDT by nooooo
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