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Connecticut Governor Malloy Not Surprised by Adam Lanza Warrants Details, but Still Disturbed
countytimes.com ^ | March 28, 2013 | Mary E. O’Leary

Posted on 03/28/2013 9:10:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

HARTFORD - Gov. Dannel P. Malloy said much of what was in the warrants on Adam Lanza’s home confirmed much of what was known about the 26 murders he committed, but the details were still disturbing.

“We knew that a disturbed individual entered a school and fired 154 rounds in less than 5 minutes, killing 20 innocent children and six dedicated educators. We knew that he had ready access to weapons that he should not have had access to. We knew that these weapons were legally purchased under our current laws,” Malloy said in a statement. “We knew he used 30 round magazines to do it, and that they allowed him to do maximum damage in a very short period of time. And we now know that he left the lower capacity magazines at home.

“This is exactly why we need to ban high capacity magazines and why we need to tighten our assault weapons ban. I don’t know what more we can need to know before we take decisive action to prevent gun violence. The time to act is now,” he said.

Malloy later during a press briefing said the volume of ammunition - 1,400 rounds according to his count - in the Lanza home was shocking.

“There are parts of this story that are unfathomable and one is ... how anyone would have maintained that household that way is difficult to understand,” he said of firearms and ammunition available to Adam Lanza, although his mother, Nancy Lanza, was the legal owner of the weapons.

U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal also reacted to the release of the warrants, saying in a statement, “The sheer volume of ammunition, guns and weapons revealed and retrieved in these searches is absolutely staggering and should provide strong evidence for the urgency and importance of common sense gun safety measures,” including background checks for gun and ammunition purchases, and a ban on magazines containing more than 10 rounds.

A representative of the Coalition of Connecticut Sportsman, however, said Thursday that the number of rounds found in the Lanza house was not excessive and could be used up in a day of target practice.

But Malloy, also in the press briefing, said a lower clip “would have magnified the number of times he (Lanza) would have had to change that instrument. It would have changed the nature of the crime - in a theater it would do it, in a mall it would do it, in a post office it would do it,” Malloy said, referring to other instances of mass slayings in the country or potential killings.

Malloy said the state can do more on mental health access, but it has 45,000 more lower-income people on Medicaid than any other state and additional reforms are coming. On guns however, he said “the time to act is now.”

The governor was asked how he would legislate against another parent allowing such access to the non-owner of her firearms.

“You make it impossible for them to give them that gun or that size magazine in our state,” he said referring to an expanded assault weapons ban and a ban on clips with more than 10 rounds. He and legislative leaders also want a universal background check to catch the large percentage of gun purchases that are now not covered, as well as putting all guns under lock.

Malloy said the purchase of the ammunition and the firearms was not illegal. He said the first thing Adam Lanza did that was illegal was to kill his mother, which he could not have done if had not accessed her weapons.

Malloy said lawmakers have more than enough information to take up a bill, which they expect to do Wednesday. The governor had down played the need to access the search warrants, but reiterated they reinforce his position on reforms. He said they don’t need the toxicology report.

He was asked about objections by some lawmakers to background checks for transfer of weapons to family members and that Lanza got a check from his mother to purchase firearms.

“Our country needs to change its ways. Forty percent of guns change hands outside of background checks ... I cannot get on a plane in this country without somebody doing a background check on me every single time,” Malloy said.

The National Rifle Association at one point supported universal checks, but most recently changed that position.


TOPICS: US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; lana; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment
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1 posted on 03/28/2013 9:10:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How exactly did they KNOW he had ready access to his mother’s guns? She actually shot these things, they were hers. How do they absolutely KNOW he could get his hands on them anytime he wanted. He had to murder her to get them out of that house.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 9:12:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He said the first thing Adam Lanza did that was illegal was to kill his mother, which he could not have done if had not accessed her weapons.

This is the stupidity I am stuck with in Ct. I am stuck here but I sure the hell don't have to like it.

3 posted on 03/28/2013 9:16:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Tailgunner Joe

From where I’m sitting now I can put my hands on 5 guns without leaving my computer chair, my little workbench is right next to the computer. I always thought I was about average, never thought I had a lot of gear.


4 posted on 03/28/2013 9:19:19 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Anyone who owns a gun knows that 1400 rounds, especially for mutiple guns/calibers, is not a lot of ammo, by a long shot.

Of course, the good governor, like all gun grabbing leftists, doesn't know anything about guns.

5 posted on 03/28/2013 9:20:23 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“We knew that a disturbed individual entered a school and fired 154 rounds in less than 5 minutes...

That's a pretty good rate of fire, must've fired fairly quickly, then pause to reload, acquire targets, etc.

We knew that he had ready access to weapons that he should not have had access to.

I see. So adding more laws for similar whack-jobs to ignore will do what exactly then?

We knew he used 30 round magazines to do it, and that they allowed him to do maximum damage in a very short period of time. And we now know that he left the lower capacity magazines at home. ... “This is exactly why we need to ban high capacity magazines and why we need to tighten our assault weapons ban.

Because forcing him to take a few more seconds for a few additional magazine changes would've done what exactly? It was over in 5 minutes, it was 20 minutes before law enforcement was on scene. Every single law proposed or in place was, and remains, ineffective.

I don’t know what more we can need to know before we take decisive action to prevent gun violence. The time to act is now,” he said.

Nothing is as dangerous as an idea when it is the only one you have. How about instead of more laws to be ignored by criminals, or more laws that are tactically useless, you take positive action? How about real security that can deter or end such an incident?

Oh, wait, that's what the NRA proposed. We can't do that. First, it came from the NRA, we must oppose anything they're for. Second, it might actually work. We can't have that. We might not have any more horrific incidents, and without them we can't elicit the emotional response we need to ram through our unconstitutional agenda. Sadly not satire.

6 posted on 03/28/2013 9:22:58 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: jwalsh07
Beginning to look like Mother Lanza was a nut case as well ~ but so is the Governor of CT if he imagines he can force parents to do background checks on their children living in their homes every time they take the kid out to shoot and hand him a firearm.

Seriously, CT has to change its commitment laws first ~ before anything ~ even protecting the chillun'

There are apparently more than anyone's fairshare of nutballs needing to be ferreted out and locked up in that state ~ starting with the Governor.

7 posted on 03/28/2013 9:24:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tailgunner Joe
the volume of ammunition - 1,400 rounds according to his count - in the Lanza home was shocking.

I've got that much in steel case Ruski/CCCP .22 LR. At least.

How much ammunition do I have? Truthfully? I have no idea, and it would take an archealogical team working years to determine. 22LR are more common in my house than dust bunnies. Every drawer has at least a piece of a box. I found some in the piano bench, and a small handful on the harp of the baby grand. I don't remember putting them there.

The chief needs to get his big-girl panties on, because broke cooks have more ammo on accident than his scary tale.

/johnny

8 posted on 03/28/2013 9:24:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There was a safe in the house that was open, but no sign that it was forced open or anything.


9 posted on 03/28/2013 9:27:44 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: jwalsh07
I hear ya jw....I've been having an email go-round with Phil Miller

I just saw this posted elsewhere and it needs to be shared. A constituent emailed his rep, Connecticut State Representative Philip J. Miller (D-36) about the expected E-CERT bill, and other gun control bills. Here was Representative Philip Miller's response:

I’m sorry to say that I disagree with you and I plan on supporting legislation which will tighten up existing law and place some reasonable limitation on just what kind of firepower civilians can have.

Thank you for your consideration.
Philip Miller

Representative Miller also responded to an earlier email on the topic:

I will support new legislation and I think most of your points are ridiculous.

Thanks for your consideration.

Philip Miller

____________________________________________________________

He's been much more polite with me, b/c we go way back....I knew him well in Essex B4 he was involved in politics and was a no body. But this is what we are up against. These yahoos are willing to vote w/out seeing state attorney's report. They've already made up their minds. And these select *meetings* they have been having with the antis make me furious. I've been writing letters and almost at the point where I am going to tie them to bricks and a *hand deliver* them!

10 posted on 03/28/2013 9:28:02 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: smokingfrog

We have another problem...there’s a persistent rumor floating around that *ALL* the casing found in the school where 9mm.

Residents close to local cops who were on scene are afraid to speak about this but have quietly confirmed that only 9mms were found.

We’re never ever going to get this from the report we’re all waiting for.


11 posted on 03/28/2013 9:33:21 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: smokingfrog

Means nothing. Guns may not have even been kept there. is it a gun safe or regular safe? either way he could have opened them after he murdered his mom.

There is no way to KNOW he had ready access to them. This is speculation on their part.

This is a total overreach on purpose by these people. They will use this to say if you have anyone in your family the least bit unstable it’s reason to collect your guns because they KNOW that person has ready access to your guns. They could kill you with knives and then take your guns. So now it falls back on demonizing the law abiding gun owner for not preparing to be ambushed by one of their own family.

A total stranger could incapacitate a gun owner and take their guns. How about any of the gun owners papers published. ANyone of them are known to have guns, criminals know they have guns, if they target them they could have ready access to their guns. Now it’s the law abiding gun owner’s fault the criminals got their guns because they didn’t take umpteen million precautions - that would render actually getting their gun if needed in a timely manner, difficult.


12 posted on 03/28/2013 9:34:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Sicon
Of course, the good governor, like all gun grabbing leftists, doesn't know anything about guns.

Dumb statement.

The rational reason for gun control is to eliminate the guns in the hands of the upstanding citizen. That is because they want to be able to rule without the consent of the governed. they don't care about the criminals, they will just hire them as enforcers. It's a big mistake to blame them for their lack of gun knowledge. They know damn well what they are doing.

13 posted on 03/28/2013 9:37:19 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Really?
Malloy gets a background check every time he boards a plane?

Why not check his papers whenever he goes to the corner store?

I just makes sense /s


14 posted on 03/28/2013 9:38:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

**** which he could not have done if had not accessed her weapons. ****

Bunkum. Ronald Gene Simmons strangled half his family, drowned one, and shot the rest with a single action .22.

Juan Corona hacked twenty five men to death with a machete.

You would be surprised with what you can do with a common hammer or samurai sword that Adam Lanza posessed.

Anyone notice he had magazines and ammo for rifles he did not have?


15 posted on 03/28/2013 9:39:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There are even cases in which people steal guns from police and then kill said police.


16 posted on 03/28/2013 9:39:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I want to know what a C183 fire arm is.

This political kabuki theater is ridiculous.


17 posted on 03/28/2013 9:47:49 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t know what kind of safe it was. Report said he shot his mother with a .22 rifle, so he may have had access to that. I doubt his mother would give him free access to the Bushmaster, pistol, shotgun, etc. My theory is that the safe may have had one of those electronic type locks, and he may have figured out the combo somehow. Probably wouldn’t be that hard to do with a hidden camera or dusting the face of the lock with something to show which numbers need to be pushed. He had a large spreadsheet of other mass shootings with the number of people killed and the weapons used, so looks like he planned this shooting for a while and picked the most vulnerable target he could find.

So far, I haven’t heard anything about what kind of drugs might have been found in the house, prescription or otherwise, and what kind of drugs the murdering little prick might have been taking.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 10:09:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is based on a press release that was carefully scripted to enrage low-information voters. It is part of the political rope a dope associated with the Big Zero’s gun control push. Look at the AMA junk science report released a couple weeks ago, at the use of spam-bots to flood elected officials with negative comments about their not supporting passage of gun control laws.

This is all being carefully scripted.

19 posted on 03/28/2013 10:10:04 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: mylife

20 posted on 03/28/2013 10:11:46 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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