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To: BroJoeK
Here is your exact comment from #310: “First of all, if you think the Morrill Tariff had anything to do with Deep South declarations of secession, then I'd challenge you to quote any of their Declarations of Reasons for Secession which say as much.”

You set up a strawman argument by suggesting that a set of unofficial documents proved anything more being commentary.

And the point is that secession had its own causes, but Lincoln's invasion had its causes also....quite different from each other.

Go ahead and quote what you want but exclusion proves nothing.

371 posted on 04/09/2013 2:54:23 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge
PeaRidge: "You set up a strawman argument by suggesting that a set of unofficial documents proved anything more being commentary."

The Declarations of Reasons for Secession listed in post #365 above are all Official Documents, approved by their respective State Secession Conventions.
Read them.

So what, exactly, is your problem with that?

PeaRidge: "And the point is that secession had its own causes, but Lincoln's invasion had its causes also....quite different from each other."

Agreed.
First, seven Deep South states seceded and started war to protect slavery from "Black Republican" abolitionists, and from just-elected President Lincoln.

Second, four Upper South states only joined in rebellion after the Confederacy had already started and declared, or "recognized", war on the United States.

Third, after Fort Sumter's surrender, in April 1861 President Lincoln called up state militias to:

  1. Defeat the military power which had started and declared war on the United States, to
  2. Restore the Union under its Constitution, and eventually, to
  3. Destroy the "peculiar institution" of slavery.

PeaRidge: "Go ahead and quote what you want but exclusion proves nothing."

Say what?

375 posted on 04/09/2013 4:44:36 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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