Posted on 03/19/2013 8:37:50 PM PDT by chessplayer
You might think that police or other federal authorities would need to obtain a court order to be able to place a GPS tracking device on your vehicle. That court order is apparently not needed according to the Obama administration. This is despite the fact that the Supreme Court ruled last year that attaching GPS devices to the vehicles of citizens amounted to search protected by the Constitution.
(Excerpt) Read more at slashgear.com ...
Good to be the King.
They still calling themselves “the administration” over there?
Haven’t heard anything about this from the Pravda USA media, of course.
Of course.
This from slashgear and I just read a thread from a Cnet story. Obama must be losing his lustre.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2998660/posts
Acid bath. Pool acid. Vinegar. Soak it. Repeat as necessary.
Do all new cars have these? If so I don’t think I’ll buy a new car anytime soon
“...protected by the Constitution.”
Emperor Obama insists that the constitution only means what he, personally, wants it to mean.
Kenyan Prez, Kenyan rules, yup.
Didn’t his politician relative back there burn down a bunch of churches..?
He don’ need no steenking warrant!
“Do all new cars have these? If so I don’t think I’ll buy a new car anytime soon”
No. This is strictly about government agents attaching the devices to suspect vehicles.
Got Onstar? Got a navigation system? You (your vehicle) can be located. Cell phone? Ditto, unless you pull the battery between calls.
That’s not what the article was referring to.
I thought I might point it out, since there was a case many years ago in Nevada regarding the Feds listening in on conversations held in a private vehicle via the Onstar in the vehicle (without a warrant). Even if they can’t add a gadget to your vehicle, they might not need to.
i would regularly start checking your vehicles. if you find one, destroy it.
You’re right. There are ways to get in and Onstar is one. And the only way to be sure that no one is listening,even if it’s not the government, is to get in the trunk and unplug it.
There are some folks that I have seen posting on FR who are concerned that the collision data recorders that are now mandated, also may have a tracking component. They don’t. CDR’s have been around for some time now. Allowing access to them is what the mandate is about. Will that change? Will the government mandate tracking enabled equipment in future model years? I don’t know. I put nothing past this government.
Just judging from trends and what I have observed in the past: If the IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) appears to want it, it usually happens.
Of course, access to such data might indicate who was a greater/lesser insurance risk so they could set rates better...and it might make it easier to assign fault in accidents.
It is only a short step from there to the technology where the government or its minions can dump the data and then fine you for any infraction from failing to signal for a turn, an equipment malfunction, or speeding.
There has already been a push for (and in some jurisdictions, implementation) of breathalyzer interlocks which will disable a vehicle if someone either fails or fails to take the test. While that seems like a good idea at first, I know of one instance where someone rear ended a vehicle while attempting to satisfy the demand for a breath test--while moving, in traffic. There are other problems with that, but how long until revenue seekers, in both the public and private sectors demand the collection of and access to such data is a question of whether people will value their freedom from such snooping and whether they will elect representatives who will honor that level of privacy.
The "I pay for...." crowd will always decide that if it saves them three cents a year, they should sacrifice the rights of all--unless they are bad drivers, that is.
Another twist, GPS data for any given vehicle could be used in divorce and other civil cases as well.
There are those who don't care if the planet is leaning over their shoulder while they live their lives, and Facebook, and other social networking phenomena are training the young to readily disclose intimate aspects of their lives already--and expect others to have no problems with that. It won't be until people see the downside that that trend will stop, if then.
As I’ve posted on other threads, if we’re hearing about it
now, they’ve already been doing it for years.
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