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Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status
WaPo ^ | 3.19.2013 | Rosalind S. Helderman

Posted on 03/19/2013 2:01:47 PM PDT by WCH

The dramatic shift in the Republican Party on immigration continued Tuesday, as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a conservative tea party icon and possible 2016 presidential contender, endorsed an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws that would allow the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to obtain legalized status. “Immigration will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. That’s why I’m here today: to begin that conversation and become part of the solution,” he said in a breakfast speech Tuesday morning before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Washington.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; apaulling; apaulogia; apaulogist; demagogue; illegals; kentucky; paultard; randpaul
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To: Norm Lenhart

If he could push this travesty without lying about how they’ll blend into and contribute to the culture.


81 posted on 03/19/2013 3:07:27 PM PDT by stanne
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To: TigersEye

Speaking of principle not mattering. Guess I posted too soon.

Enjoy the fruits of your labors.


82 posted on 03/19/2013 3:07:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TigersEye

When has “all or nothing” NOT worked?


83 posted on 03/19/2013 3:08:38 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

You’ll confuse him with logic. Go with emotional arguments. They seem to understand those.


84 posted on 03/19/2013 3:09:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Here's a pic to pass along...














P.S. Keep making heads explode ;^)
85 posted on 03/19/2013 3:09:54 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Bikkuri

Bikk, it’s what I live for ;)


86 posted on 03/19/2013 3:10:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: stanne

I would welcome him back in Texas, and where do you live?


87 posted on 03/19/2013 3:12:04 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Bikkuri

LOL!


88 posted on 03/19/2013 3:13:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TigersEye

Your Plan Rand Paul
Deport illegal aliens on contact with LE. No
Enforce the law vigorously on employers of illegals. No
Strong border security. Build the physical fence and use high-tech surveillance. Yes
Eliminate entitlements for illegal aliens except for true emergency care. No
End the "anchor baby" policy. No

How can you claim Rand Paul supports your plan?
89 posted on 03/19/2013 3:14:05 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: TigersEye

Side note. Running a liberal Repub got us Obama II. Or hadn’t ya’ll noticed that a candidate like I espouse was eliminated by the people and BS you espouse?

Tell me again how ‘all or nothing’ loses...


90 posted on 03/19/2013 3:14:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TigersEye; Norm Lenhart
I was talking about you and your “all or nothing” POV. It gets us 0bama for term II.

And there you have it!

You're not discussing this with a principled conservative, but someone who believes in compromising on anything.

TE isn't a conservative, he's a libertarian first, and his so-called principles are more like mere suggestions.
91 posted on 03/19/2013 3:14:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: WCH

Like I said before on this forum. This guy is not someone that conservative should choose just because of a filibuster. There is a lot wrong with what this guy believes.


92 posted on 03/19/2013 3:15:30 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Norm Lenhart
The fruits of my labors? You mean my standard post I assume.

You've convinced me of one thing, it's a waste of my time to try to inject facts or reason into a discussion on border security and illegal aliens so this will be my last post on the subject. For the last time ever here is my suggestion...

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

I look forward to reading your Senator's plan.
Mine are both commies so no one is holding their breath for theirs.

93 posted on 03/19/2013 3:15:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Ray76; TigersEye
Strong border security. Build the physical fence and use high-tech surveillance.

Except you forgot that Rand is going to depend on a "Certification of border security" from the congress as the lynchpin for the decision to grant Amnesty to the next 2 million Illegal Invaders.

Not quite the same as saying, until the fence is finished on the southern border, we won't be doing anything on the Amnesty front.
94 posted on 03/19/2013 3:16:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Most of them will flat out SAY that they too are Conservatives, while Captain Obvious says otherwise... some come right out and tell us that WE need to change FROM being Conservative, which, in that case.. they are on the WRONG website.

Cheers


95 posted on 03/19/2013 3:17:19 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: TigersEye

Funny...I thought a few posts back I AGREED WITH YOUR PLAN???

Must be the pain meds. Anyone else here notice me posting that or did I imagine it all? I haZ a confused...


96 posted on 03/19/2013 3:18:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SoConPubbie

I did think about putting an asterisk by that “yes” but wanted to keep it simple. ;)


97 posted on 03/19/2013 3:18:33 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Bikkuri

I understand FR needs the donations. But the liberal-ratian disruptions hold FR in cross purposes, not advancing conservatism.


98 posted on 03/19/2013 3:19:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Ditter

I grew op in a big port city. Polish, Italian, German, Russian Jew, Irish from the late 1800s to the ‘40s, and Dutch & Brit from the century prior.

The kids wore forbidden to speak the native language their grandparents spoke at home.

Food, expressions, games, music and ethics along with love and gratitude for the US came with this immigration. It was unheard of to not apply for citizenship- shameful. No one lived on gov’t handouts (in the downtown areas, yes, there were generations of takers, but they were outcasts).

Watch a tape of the St. Patrick’s Day Parade form the other day (not the O’Rielly sensationalization of the 25% drunks - not Irish, but kids). You will see plenty of American flags in that procession, and everyone is Irish on that day. It’s why the Irish can take mockery like just about no one else.

They pick themselves up and get back to school (some liberal Jesuit organization, ok) but back to work.

Sen. Paul might know Baylor and some local community in Texas, but I know immigration and naturalization from a ground view. And what’s going on in Texas is not it.


99 posted on 03/19/2013 3:19:53 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Ditter

Oh, he’s welcome, I’m sure. Why doesn’t he go there if he’s the expert on immigration?


100 posted on 03/19/2013 3:22:29 PM PDT by stanne
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