Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

WaPo ^ | 3.19.2013 | Rosalind S. Helderman

[WCH]

The dramatic shift in the Republican Party on immigration continued Tuesday, as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a conservative tea party icon and possible 2016 presidential contender, endorsed an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws that would allow the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to obtain legalized status. “Immigration will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. That’s why I’m here today: to begin that conversation and become part of the solution,” he said in a breakfast speech Tuesday morning before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Washington.

[stanne]

If he could push this travesty without lying about how they’ll blend into and contribute to the culture.

[Norm Lenhart]

Speaking of principle not mattering. Guess I posted too soon.

Enjoy the fruits of your labors.

[stanne]

When has “all or nothing” NOT worked?

[Norm Lenhart]

You’ll confuse him with logic. Go with emotional arguments. They seem to understand those.

[Bikkuri]

Here's a pic to pass along...














P.S. Keep making heads explode ;^)

[Norm Lenhart]

Bikk, it’s what I live for ;)

[Ditter]

I would welcome him back in Texas, and where do you live?

[trisham]

LOL!

[Ray76]

Your Plan	Rand Paul
Deport illegal aliens on contact with LE.	No
Enforce the law vigorously on employers of illegals.	No
Strong border security. Build the physical fence and use high-tech surveillance.	Yes
Eliminate entitlements for illegal aliens except for true emergency care.	No
End the "anchor baby" policy.	No

How can you claim Rand Paul supports your plan?

[Norm Lenhart]

Side note. Running a liberal Repub got us Obama II. Or hadn’t ya’ll noticed that a candidate like I espouse was eliminated by the people and BS you espouse?

Tell me again how ‘all or nothing’ loses...

[SoConPubbie]

I was talking about you and your “all or nothing” POV. It gets us 0bama for term II.

And there you have it!

You're not discussing this with a principled conservative, but someone who believes in compromising on anything.

TE isn't a conservative, he's a libertarian first, and his so-called principles are more like mere suggestions.

[Revel]

Like I said before on this forum. This guy is not someone that conservative should choose just because of a filibuster. There is a lot wrong with what this guy believes.

[TigersEye]

The fruits of my labors? You mean my standard post I assume.

You've convinced me of one thing, it's a waste of my time to try to inject facts or reason into a discussion on border security and illegal aliens so this will be my last post on the subject. For the last time ever here is my suggestion...

• Deport illegal aliens on contact with LE.
• Enforce the law vigorously on employers of illegals.
• Strong border security. Build the physical fence and use high-tech surveillance.
• Eliminate entitlements for illegal aliens except for true emergency care.
• End the "anchor baby" policy.

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

I look forward to reading your Senator's plan.
Mine are both commies so no one is holding their breath for theirs.

[SoConPubbie]

Strong border security. Build the physical fence and use high-tech surveillance.

Except you forgot that Rand is going to depend on a "Certification of border security" from the congress as the lynchpin for the decision to grant Amnesty to the next 2 million Illegal Invaders.

Not quite the same as saying, until the fence is finished on the southern border, we won't be doing anything on the Amnesty front.

[Bikkuri]

Most of them will flat out SAY that they too are Conservatives, while Captain Obvious says otherwise... some come right out and tell us that WE need to change FROM being Conservative, which, in that case.. they are on the WRONG website.

Cheers

[Norm Lenhart]

Funny...I thought a few posts back I AGREED WITH YOUR PLAN???

Must be the pain meds. Anyone else here notice me posting that or did I imagine it all? I haZ a confused...

[Ray76]

I did think about putting an asterisk by that “yes” but wanted to keep it simple. ;)

[Norm Lenhart]

I understand FR needs the donations. But the liberal-ratian disruptions hold FR in cross purposes, not advancing conservatism.

[stanne]

I grew op in a big port city. Polish, Italian, German, Russian Jew, Irish from the late 1800s to the ‘40s, and Dutch & Brit from the century prior.

The kids wore forbidden to speak the native language their grandparents spoke at home.

Food, expressions, games, music and ethics along with love and gratitude for the US came with this immigration. It was unheard of to not apply for citizenship- shameful. No one lived on gov’t handouts (in the downtown areas, yes, there were generations of takers, but they were outcasts).

Watch a tape of the St. Patrick’s Day Parade form the other day (not the O’Rielly sensationalization of the 25% drunks - not Irish, but kids). You will see plenty of American flags in that procession, and everyone is Irish on that day. It’s why the Irish can take mockery like just about no one else.

They pick themselves up and get back to school (some liberal Jesuit organization, ok) but back to work.

Sen. Paul might know Baylor and some local community in Texas, but I know immigration and naturalization from a ground view. And what’s going on in Texas is not it.

[stanne]

Oh, he’s welcome, I’m sure. Why doesn’t he go there if he’s the expert on immigration?