I live in california, there is already universal background check and a fee, so whats the big deal? and taking guns from convicted criminals and the mentally ill, frankly, sounds like a pretty good idea.
I am very glad I do not live in CA.
Besides they would not like me either. Too ornery.
Anyone can put a restraining order on anyone for any number of airy reasons.
We have background checks everywhere.
What Ca has is REGISTRATION and registration is the first step to universal confiscation.
What is mentally ill? Hyperactivity,Bipolar,Anxiety,OCD?? People that have never hurt or have never had any incidents of problems due to their disorder? Will they deem every one on medication Mentally Ill? Just a question?
>>I live in california, there is already universal background check and a fee, so whats the big deal? and taking guns from convicted criminals and the mentally ill, frankly, sounds like a pretty good idea.<<
Yes, why should the loss of freedom be such a big deal. Wear your chains lightly, o good citizen of Acirema.
The big deal? It’s just another TAX on fees for a law that violates unfettered Constitutional rights, that’s all....
Secondly, Universal background checks mean nothing unless they keep a data base. This is REGISTRATION, and registration is, frankly, just CONFISCATION not yet executed.
As far as the criminals/nuts thing and guns, that’s California’s business, I guess...however, to implement this, they are using a database of the entire gun owning population to do it. And, THAT is what I have a big, big problem with.
Wait and see when LA or SF gets the big one! Mother of All Quakes. When the guard and LEOs are out confiscating your legally owned guns instead of finding and helping victims, you’ll think twice about it, but it will be too late
you sound like a liberal
we are losing are freedoms everyday as government grows and gets more responsibilities and you are ok with that and want to give them more power , to determine who is insane and then give them power to come to our house to take away our guns, our property?
I want the government to leave us alone
The threat and the only real problems are the media and gov
There are a million fake crisis and a million fake threats the media and gov will come up to get people to say “ we ought to do something about that “ , then the government gets an additional power.Even if it WERE a real threat a government agency won't be accountable or able to fix it. socialism doesn't work.
you sound like a liberal
we are losing our freedoms everyday as government grows and gets more responsibilities and you are ok with that and want to give them more power , to determine who is insane and then give them power to come to our house to take away our guns, our property?
I want the government to leave us alone
The threat and the only real problems are the media and gov
There are a million fake crisis and a million fake threats the media and gov will come up to get people to say “ we ought to do something about that “ , then the government gets an additional power.Even if it WERE a real threat a government agency won't be accountable or able to fix it. socialism doesn't work.
Just wait ‘till “mental illness” is defined as posting on a conservative, racist, tea-bagger, right-wing, gun-nut-militia web forum.
Think that can’t happen here? Think again.
It is practically standard practice for a divorcing wife to get a restraining order against the husband to deny contact between him and the children during the divorce or say that he was abusive and get a domestic violence restraining order. Now he loses his guns, because she played the victim in divorce court.