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To: BroJoeK

I grew up in the North being told that the Confederacy was evil and they wanted to ruin the nation, and enslave blacks forever blah blah blah...
The more I studied the civil war and compared it to modern day politics the more I see parallels happening.
I’ve grown to question my belief of Lincoln, and who was really “right” regarding the war.
As I see states rights continue to erode to this day, I believe we are doomed to repeat history.


97 posted on 03/10/2013 10:39:02 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase
Very well said.

From a page called "Defending the Heritage" on FB:

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DÉJÀ VU…?

TYRANNY…When someone in the Executive Branch says they can kill you without due process……….I’d be a little concerned when they begin comparing the current resident of the White House with the 16th who...

... disarmed the Border States, suspended habeas Corpus, declared Martial Law, engaged the military without Congressional approval, threatened the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, imprisoned almost an entire state legislature, deported his most vocal opponent in Congress, shut down hundreds of newspapers and jailed the editors, made total war on civilians, sat by while his minions set fire to and looted whole towns, freed slaves only where he couldn’t reach them and held them in bondage where he could have set them free, stationed armed guards at polling places to intimidate voters, recruited foreign immigrants to use as cannon fodder, promoted his generals after they executed innocent citizens, started a war to collect taxes on demand of his political and corporate cronies.

The latest research places the number of dead soldiers from his war at 750,000, add to that tens of thousands of Southern civilians and millions maimed or disfigured for life.

His law partner states that, he “coveted honor and was eager for power. He was impatient of any interference that delayed or obstructed his progress."

Sound familiar, about the only thing he didn’t do regularly was play golf and shoot hoops…

~Robert~

Photo: Two fast talking lanky lawyers from Illinois…

113 posted on 03/10/2013 10:57:05 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: miliantnutcase
miliantnutcase: "I grew up in the North being told that the Confederacy was evil and they wanted to ruin the nation, and enslave blacks forever blah blah blah..."

First of all, you sound like one of those "low information voters", who sort of walk around in a daze, don't really understand anything, and randomly pick up a lot of false information, right?

Second, "good" and "evil" in this case hugely depend on your views toward slavery.
If you consider slavery evil, then those who declare war to defend it should have a pretty hard time proving they are somehow "good", right?

In historical fact, the Confederacy was formed precisely to modify the Constitution to add clauses which protected the "rights" of owners of human "property" -- yes, "forever".

miliantnutcase: "The more I studied the civil war and compared it to modern day politics the more I see parallels happening.
I’ve grown to question my belief of Lincoln, and who was really 'right' regarding the war."

But you haven't studied the civil war, you really know nothing about it.
Instead, you've absorbed some propaganda from Neo-Confederates, and now can't separate their nonsense from what really happened.
That's why you're so confused.

miliantnutcase: "As I see states rights continue to erode to this day, I believe we are doomed to repeat history."

It's true that states rights continue to erode, but the reason is not Abraham Lincoln, it began with the 16th and 17th Amendments, both ratified just 100 years ago, under Progressive Southern Democrat President Woodrow Wilson.

As for "doomed to repeat history", it's just not going to happen, so long as good people obey the laws and act peacefully to achieve their political goals.

150 posted on 03/10/2013 12:15:03 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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