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Paul fires back: Sens. McCain, Graham think 'whole world is a battlefield'
The Hill ^ | March 7, 2013 | Daniel Strauss

Posted on 03/07/2013 12:51:49 PM PST by jazusamo

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) blasted fellow GOP Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Thursday, saying the two “think the whole world is a battlefield.”

Paul criticized the hawkish senators for thinking the laws of war should take precedence over the Bill of Rights. The two had criticized Paul’s statements about drone policy during the Kentucky Republican’s 13-hour filibuster on Thursday.

“They think the whole world is a battlefield including America and that the laws of war should apply,” Paul said in an interview on Fox News about McCain and Graham, who had described Paul’s comments about drones as “ridiculous.”

“The laws of war don't involve due process so when they ask you for an attorney you tell them to shut up. That's not my understanding of the way America works,” Paul told Fox. “I don't think the laws of war apply to America, I think the Bill of Rights do and I think it's a disservice to our soldiers that our senators up there arguing that the Bill of Rights aren't important.

Paul said whether drones can be used against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil is a “very serious question” and was at the root of Wednesday’s filibuster, which delayed a final confirmation vote on John Brennan, President Obama’s nominee to lead the CIA.

“This was a very serious question. It was a question that took a month and a half to get an answer to and I so I would argue and I think a lot of the public would agree with me, both on the right and the left, that what we ask was a very serious question and it's a question that we finally got an answer to,” Paul said.

Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday responded to Paul in a letter that said the U.S. does not have the authority to conduct a drone attack against a U.S. citizen on American soil.

“Hooray, for 13 hours yesterday we asked them that question. And so there is a result and a victory,” Paul said after the letter was read to him during the Fox interview. “Under duress and under public humiliation the White House will respond and do the right thing.”

The answer just took a filibuster that lasted almost half a day, Paul added.

“So now, after 13 hours of filibuster, we're proud to announce that the president is not going to kill unarmed Americans on American soil,” Paul continued. “My next question is why did it take so long, why is it so hard and why would a president so jealously guard power that they were afraid to say this but I am glad and I think that the answer does answer my question.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Kentucky; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
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To: jazusamo

F-n traitors!

They should both resign before we recall them.


101 posted on 03/07/2013 3:38:12 PM PST by WCH
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

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The left fears “The Sting”

Whatever that might mean......

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102 posted on 03/07/2013 3:40:12 PM PST by devolve ( -- -- God created men - Sam Colt made them equal --- Shoot low boys! - Skeeter is riding a pig! --)
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To: conservaterian
Sorry Rand, but if some terrorist (American citizen or not) is heading to a city or major sports arena, etc. to set off a nuke and we can take him out with a drone I say go for it.

According to Rand, it is just fine to take out the person in your example with a drone or anything else. That person is an imminent threat and can therefore be dispatched.

Rand's major issue is the targeting of people who are NOT a threat. His example is someone sitting in a cafe' drinking a cup of coffee or eating breakfast. That person is NOT engaged in hostilities, is NOT a threat, and should NOT be targeted for killing.

Methinks you misunderstand the problem. Obama reserved the right to kill anyone anytime for any reason. This means you, Bitter Clinger.

103 posted on 03/07/2013 3:45:25 PM PST by superloser
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To: ifinnegan
No one in the Bonus Army was shot or killed in the eviction.

Not true. Two vets were shot and one died. They probably were wise not to fight back too hard against infantry, cavalry and six tanks.

Bonus Army

104 posted on 03/07/2013 3:46:03 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: BelleAl

“Don’t know if anyone is watching, but McCain and Graham are doing a dog and pony show on the senate floor now.. CYA?”

I don’t indulge in politicians personal lives as a rule, but those two...somethin’ just ain’t right with them...ya think they’re sharing the same glass of kool-aid?? Maybe Cindy puts up with the old fool because he doesn’t bother her...
Just sayin’!


105 posted on 03/07/2013 3:51:50 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: TigersEye; ifinnegan

and gas
wasn’t gas used against the bonus army?


106 posted on 03/07/2013 3:52:48 PM PST by SisterK (Bill Whittle for president)
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To: ifinnegan
On July 28, U.S. Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the veterans removed from all government property. Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two veterans were wounded and later died. Veterans were also shot dead at other locations during the demonstration.

107 posted on 03/07/2013 3:53:49 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: SisterK
Yes.

After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and adamsite gas, an arsenical vomiting agent, entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. However Gen. MacArthur, feeling the Bonus March was a attempt to overthrow the U.S. government, ignored the President and ordered a new attack. Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[11] A veteran's wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, while a hospital spokesman said the tear gas "didn't do it any good."[15]

In all four were killed and 1,017 were injured. At least 69 police were injured.

108 posted on 03/07/2013 3:59:03 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

“McLame wanted boots on the ground in Libya too.”

I missed that one! Do ya wonder if he and Lindsey play ‘war games’....Something just not right with those two.


109 posted on 03/07/2013 3:59:52 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jazusamo

For me, America comes first.

We are at war with Islam.

And if Rand Paul thinks we don’t have the right and the duty to use every means to keep this country safe from its enemies, he has no business being in the US Senate.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. It specifically enjoins our public officials to protect the country from its enemies foreign and domestic alike.


110 posted on 03/07/2013 4:09:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
For me, America comes first.

Just not the Constitution.

111 posted on 03/07/2013 4:14:46 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: jazusamo
ROFL!! That’s the funniest and most appropriate ping list graphic I’ve seen.

Thanks. Just speaking the truth. Linda is a queer fairy and then some. Complete jerk that needs to be primaried next year.

112 posted on 03/07/2013 4:14:59 PM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: goldstategop
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

And you think Sen. Paul doesn't agree with that?

Check posts #59, #94 and #103.

113 posted on 03/07/2013 4:18:51 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

It’s a global fascist ideology McStupid and his girlfriend, Ms. Lidsay, share with Obama.

Their only opposition is the US government’s official domestic terrorist threat - Christians, Vets, conservatives, constitutionalists.

They are sickos and have hi-jacked the GOP. I’ll never forget the look of terror and fury on these Rinos’ faces when the Tea Party rose up. It inspired Rove to gnaw off his legs.

Do you think Rove is trying to make the way for ole Jeb?


114 posted on 03/07/2013 4:20:05 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Do you think Rove is trying to make the way for ole Jeb?

I think that's very possible if not down right probable. Jeb is NOT presidential material!

115 posted on 03/07/2013 4:24:22 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: onyx

Screw the GOP-E! They don’t lead. They cave to the rats everytime. Throw them out and go with the TEA Party members as the leaders.


116 posted on 03/07/2013 4:47:49 PM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: jazusamo
"I don't think the laws of war apply to America, I think the Bill of Rights do and I think it's a disservice to our soldiers that our senators up there arguing that the Bill of Rights aren't important. "

Bam! This guy has the guts of ten current GOP-e members.

117 posted on 03/07/2013 4:50:21 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Graham and McCain both suck at their jobs.


118 posted on 03/07/2013 5:18:53 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: jazusamo

Foxnews Shep Smith was outraged today. He said Paul made a fool out of himself last night and that if last night was what the congress was reduced to, the US might as well be invaded and taken over. And the lefty spin that is gaining momentum is that the filibuster was a huge victory for obama because it makes him look strong against terrorism and makes the GOP look weak.


119 posted on 03/07/2013 5:19:44 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
That's par for the course with Sheppy and the left is crazier than I thought if they think that was a win for 0dumbo.

Sheppy should do some reading up on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights but him being a leftist it's probably asking too much for him to waste his time.

120 posted on 03/07/2013 5:40:39 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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