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The “Buildup” Continues: DHS Purchases 2,700 MRAPs (Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles)
theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | 3/4/13 | n/a

Posted on 03/04/2013 7:20:52 AM PST by Texas Eagle

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To: Mr. K

yup. they know what it’s for and they want it to happen too.


61 posted on 03/04/2013 11:16:30 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: avenir

God gave you a life. nobody else has a right to take it. you don’t let evil run unchecked. those you talk about had no weapons, had no way to defend against anything. we are not in the same boat, by God’s grace. He doesn’t give us freedom and abilities just to chuck them aside and watch others butcher the innocent while we sit around saying “It’s God’s will.”

this amounts to pacifism relying on the “God wants us all to be martyrs” theory. it’s a lot more convenient. even the jews fought going into captivity, they had to be defeated, they didn’t just ignore their ability to defend themselves.

if you think you’re dead anyway, why not make them earn it? they’ll spin you as a terrorist or whatever, if you even get a mention at all.


62 posted on 03/04/2013 11:27:14 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I own a copy that I bought new, whenever it came out.


63 posted on 03/04/2013 11:29:19 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: saleman

Let me offer some insight here. There are problems with the MRAP:

- higher center of gravity.....this means that it flips fairly easy. Just by jumping a sizeable curb at a fair amount of speed...you might be able to flip it.

- It has antennas on it usually...tall ones. So if you hit the right electrical line...you blast everyone in the vehicle with voltage.

- In urban areas, it’s ok with bridges. In rural areas...around the south...half of the bridges might collapse with this thing on them.

- It gets three to five miles per gallon on average. I’m guessing it has a fifty-to-seventy gallon tank.

- It has poor maneuverability...especially in an urban street area.

- It’s basically designed to drive guys to a mess, and dump them off. It’s not made to breach a house, fence, barn, or facility.

- It would make sense if you were basing 400 around DC for the protection of the President and the Capital...but so far, they haven’t said what the intended deployment will be.

- Top speed: 55 mph. Although it probably isn’t that safe to be in the back and hitting any potholes, and I doubt you can turn any real street turns at more than 15 mph (it’d flip at higher speed).

- Spare parts. You might luck out on the first year or two....but spare parts are going to be a problem. I’m guessing that they will have a warranty program for two years, and maybe DHS will cover another two years...but after that....your local community will be stuck with the bills.

- The sad thing here is that some nut on a tractor, with a five-inch pipe mounted on the front....could flip the truck over if he could get them into a position where they can’t manueaver. After you flip it....I’m guessing it’d be $5k to rent a crane to pick it up safely and put it back on it’s wheels.

It’s a paperweight....burning $4 a gallon fuel for each run. You’d best have a ton of money for fuel and parts.


64 posted on 03/04/2013 2:31:41 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: cashless

It can for those who are in favor of government oppression – those of a Pro + oppressive bent (Proppressive)

But not for those who want to preserve liberty.


65 posted on 03/04/2013 3:10:40 PM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family..."

THIS^^^^^^^

66 posted on 03/04/2013 3:30:23 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Texas Eagle

I guess they expect the resistance to the Socialist Revolution to use IED’s?


67 posted on 03/04/2013 3:59:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Texas Eagle; All

Ha, last guy is picking his nose...Classy...

Just stay bunched up like that guys...No problem...

They look sooooo tacticool, don’t they???


68 posted on 03/04/2013 4:10:02 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; All

Keep up the pressure on the gooberheads in D.C.

It is not surprising that all these stopgap spending measures instead of a real budget are what is NOT getting the normal congressional budgetary scrutiny...

That would be a very damning thing to get the congress to get off ITS azz and expose this nonsense...

But then again, we’re going to have to live with the risk of this force being activated until we gain back control of this country...If we ever can...

BTW, I think a few of us also saw that in addition to these MRAD’s being deployed with their prosepective teams, we have 400+ M1117’s being refurbished for “unspecified” domestic duties as well...So throw the number of those into the mix and we have about 4-5 strong divisions of troops under direct authority (other than the military DoD) getting ready to jump off on some interesting adventures...

The off nominal un-Constitutional, un-restricted potential these “units” pose upon our freedoms and liberties is horrific...

But then again all we can do is ask...And they will continue to lie and deceive us at every turn...

Interesting times we live in...


69 posted on 03/04/2013 4:18:31 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: GOPJ

If Bush really had wanted to protect Americans from radical Muslims, he would have done something about our border security.

Starting with putting up real, physical fences on the borders.

But he didn’t.

If Bush had wanted to do something about protecting Americans from radical Muslims, he would have stopped being such a bootlicking dhimmi with the “Islam is a religion of peace” crap. He would have stated the obvious in an obvious way, and if radical imams popped up in Detroit or whereever, we should have used that as an opportunity to take them in without disturbing the rest of the populace.

If Bush had wanted to protect Americans from radical muslims, he would have diminished or eliminated immigration from islamic countries. He didn’t. If Bush really wanted to protect Americans from radical muslims, he would have prohibited any foreign muslims from attending engineering schools in the US, as well as cancelled the student visas of muslims already enrolled in engineering programs.

Bush did none of these things. What Bush did is blow sunshine up your backside. That’s it.


70 posted on 03/04/2013 4:24:28 PM PST by NVDave
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To: cashless
There is no circumstance where this can be construed as good news. It is indeed ominous.

I fear when the evil slime in government decides to strike, they will attempt a brutal Shock and Awe" against the citizens of our Republic.

71 posted on 03/04/2013 4:41:17 PM PST by sand88
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To: GOPJ; ClearCase_guy

When you start reading it you will not put it down. Will pay several hundeds of dollars for it if you find it what I had heard. It is out here on .pdf.

Time to feed the hogs....


72 posted on 03/04/2013 4:42:54 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: ClearCase_guy; All

Does anyone have an actual government document pertaining to this, or is this being rocketed around the blogosphere.

I have heard from someone in the government that DHS has only 12, would like to see some independent confirmation...


73 posted on 03/04/2013 4:57:28 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: NVDave

You’ve got that right.


74 posted on 03/04/2013 4:59:21 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: GeronL

No totalitarian can safely go home......

Just sayin’.


75 posted on 03/04/2013 5:12:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: GOPJ

http://www.zjstech.net/~ddixson/Unintended_Consequences.pdf


76 posted on 03/04/2013 5:16:15 PM PST by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting boxes to do it.)
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To: avenir

When tyrants come for anyone’s guns and kill, many millions of us know what to do without hesitation.


77 posted on 03/04/2013 5:17:23 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Texas Eagle
Good little Brown Shirts.

They have families, they have names. Make it public. Start at the bottom and work up.
78 posted on 03/04/2013 5:21:00 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Texas Eagle

They’ll try to win 2014 election, take the house, then take the country after it collapses. That’s the plan.


79 posted on 03/04/2013 5:32:20 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: jiggyboy

I don’t have a problem with local law enforcement having access to an armored vehicle, depending upon what they do with it.

I remember several years ago a sniper had people pinned down in a 7-11 up the street from me and the county police positioned their armored car so that the people could be extracted. That’s a legitimate use. Oppressing the people of course is not.


80 posted on 03/04/2013 5:48:14 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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