Posted on 03/01/2013 7:51:50 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
SEFFNER -- A sheriff's deputy plucked a man from an expanding sinkhole, but neither was able to save the man's brother from being sucked into the rubble, authorities said.
Early Friday, authorities said the site at 240 Faithway Drive had become too unstable to continue rescue efforts and the focus would instead shift to a recovery operation.
The sinkhole opened late Thursday in the home's backyard, swallowing one of the home's four bedrooms.
Someone called 911, and a deputy reportedly found Jeremy Bush trying to pull his brother, Jeffrey, out of the hole when he arrived.
The deputy pulled Jeremy from the growing hole.
But Jeffrey Bush, 36, disappeared into the rubble.
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Yeah. I wouldn’t call it “hate.” It’s just callous, ignorant, unfeeling, inhuman jackasses, acting like callous, ignorant, unfeeling, inhuman jackasses.
What a horrible thing, for the entire family. They are apparently still searching for the missing brother and have not given up hope yet. It might be that he is still alive. I would say it’s unlikely, but people have survived unlikely things before. Prayers for the whole family.
Listened to the video here:
It doesn’t sound likely to me that they will recover Jeffrey Bush alive.
I hate to say it, but you guys are jerks.
This was a very modest and, judging by the tattoos, a somewhat downwardly mobile white family living a very modest house in a very modest neighborhood.
So that means you should laugh at them or their deaths?
For most of my 53 years, I have lived in or, at least, had family in Florida. I believe this is the first fatal sinkhole I have heard about. I do know that with the lowering water table in Florida, they have become more common.
umm... I merely said I would like to know more about the family. I did no laughing . don’t know how that warrants me a jerk as nothing was implied by my question.
Because people here always laugh at “white trash,” which is probably what these people were, or at least marginally, and I thought you were doing that too.
My apologies if that’s not what you meant.
Thanks for the reply but I think it’s obvious I wasn’t speaking to you.
OK, that’s alarming. Its like Central Florida is getting sucked down into the void.
Its quite common to ping relevant parties on a thread especially if you are in agreement as we are....and a few others i see
I don't courtesy ping those i disagree with
Why invite heartburn
I don't know why some delight in tragedy
And I'm glad u don't
I feel awful for the man and his family. What a terrifying way to die.
Hi. My name is Boris, and I sell upside-down bi-lingual caution tape.
As I understand the situation as of now, the outside shell of the house is still standing, but most of the entire interior home flooring is now gone, not just the original single bedroom where Jeff Bush was last heard alive, screaming for help.
If you are not familiar with sinkholes, you may be familiar with cavernous springs. A small, short chimney, with a narrow drop before hitting a pool of water, possibly hundreds of feet, and potentially hundreds of width in diameter.
But Jeff may still be alive down there.
We don't yet know that he is dead.
Do you also make jokes about trapped miners?
For many, many hours no attempts to even try to rescue Jeff were allowed by “authorities”.
None of us here in the local area know if that was the right call.
But as of now, there has been no reports of rescue attempts or “recovery efforts” .
You should know better than to spout trash talk in a serious situation like this, JRandomFreeper.
But what you claim your kids would do, is probably correct.
That photo shows them running a electrical resistivity survey - checking for more voids in the front yard. Probably so they can safely bring in heavy equipment to try to recover the body.
Sad. I wonder where his drain spouts go. This type of terrain one wants to make sure they drain a good ways from the house.
I think you are being oversensitive and somewhat obnoxious with your holier-than-thou attitude.
I made jokes about my own near demise while I was still unable to sit up by myself in the trauma care center. Hell, I still talk about missing my left kidney, but my spleen and I never really talked anyway...
Get over yourself.
/johnny
On the google street view it shows the front drain spout with no extension, dumping 1/3 of the roof water into that corner. I imagine the same goes for the back drain.
My kids WOULD do that, because they have also been deployed and lost folks in terrible ways. They are fairly practical about issues like that and not oversensitive weeps.
Have a good weekend.
/johnny
You don’t feel anything for this man’s family, and you have not “been there, done that”.
Why not open up a big bottle of STFU, and take a long gulp?
(Do I still sound “holier than thou” to you?)
I did agree with you that your kids would probably be right in just ignoring your demise, should you suddenly die.
Jeff Bush has an extended family and a large local community that does care about him, during this horrible situation.
Maybe you should work on expanding your sensitivity.
Or at the very least, refraining from trash talk about innocent victims of sudden lethal situations.
A lot of “sinkholes” now appearing in Florida aren’t natural limestone sinkholes, although we certainly have plenty of those, this is karst country.
But there’s also the type of voids created some decades ago, when developers dozed up huge swaths of saw palmetto and other trees in low areas along the coast where instead of limestone there’s often just deep cypress dome peat bogs, and rather than burn these mountains of wood or haul it away it was used as fill in ponds, swamps and other spots that otherwise would have been too low to build on.
There could be football field size voids left this way that are far more unstable than a limestone sink. Filling with downed trees and brush was a cost saving effort for contractors since fill dirt isn’t cheap in Florida, plus it hid the tell-tale signs of a possible flood prone area by burying saw palmetto. Then they piled many feet of typical Florida sandy soil on top and built on it, and covered it with a thin layer of better soil so it could support lawns.
For decades the houses stood fine atop twenty foot tall piles of logs and branches, but eventually the buried wood rotted away and settled, leaving a void. The void might slowly sank with the weight of the house, especially if networks of big tree roots are allowed to grow, or they might collapse catastrophically if someone suddenly decides to cut old trees all at once and their roots decay, or if there’s a deluge.
In the case of the man-made sinkholes, several will often appear in the same neighborhood at roughly the same time because the houses were all built at the same time and so the hidden woodpiles beneath have rotted away at the same rate.
Which type of sinkhole this one is I don’t know, but I bet a lot of people will be looking closely at their foundations tomorrow before going to sleep.
In an earlier story, the local rescue director said they’d done testing of the ground and there was no sign of life. It’s heartbreaking for this family. An aunt who lives there refused to leave, staying in her car nearby and hoping she’d be there for the return of her nephew.
I wonder if ground penetrating radar could detect such voids.
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