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Another Reason Romney Lost: He Had A Full Blown Idiot (Stuart Stevens) Running His Campaign.
Red State ^ | 2/25/2013 | Martin Knight

Posted on 02/26/2013 4:03:57 AM PST by IbJensen

Meaning Romney Was Also An Idiot For Not Noticing ...

Sometime before Election Day, before the debates, people already knew Stuart Stevens and his team were in over their heads. From the utter fiasco of Romney’s convention speech, which he stripped down to a thin gruel of bland forgettable pablum (and of course, stripped of any mention of America’s servicemen and women abroad), throwing aside Bush’s micro-targetting programmed wholesale, allowing his Hollywood aspirations to make him give the prime speaking slot at the RNC to Clint Eastwood (without any vetting) instead of people who would humanize his candidate, I just thought at the time, that Stu Stevens was simply disorganized.

Then, we found out about ORCA, and the fact that Stevens and his team (Moffat, et al.) still thought the system performed well because … “metrics”. Then came the revelation that Stevens had no concept of the idea that what voters tell pollsters is often quite different from what would actually influence them in favor of candidate A or B.

Then we discovered the wide disparity in both quality, quantity and reach of advertising (in Obama’s favor), despite the fact that this was supposed to be where Stevens was going to dominate and make up for months of unanswered attacks – down the home stretch the Obama Campaign and its allies outperformed Romney and every single Conservative SuperPAC on every possible measure; “[Obama] spent less on advertising than Romney and his allies but got far more — in the number of ads broadcast, in visibility in key markets and in targeting critical demographic groups, such as the working class and younger voters in swing states … Romney not only paid more for his ads but also missed crucial opportunities to advertise, for instance during the political conventions and on Spanish-language television …”

When it came to online advertising, the graph to your right tells you the entire story.

Considering the horrendous amount of what was very rightly called campaign malpractice in that WaPo piece, there actually is a viable argument that Mitt Romney could take Stuart Stevens and Co. to court for fraud.

But as they say; never attribute to malice what can just as easily be attributed to abject stupidity.

Top Romney Strategist Stuart Stevens Says Media Not ‘In The Tank’ For President Obama.

Ever since then-Senator Barack Obama first took a lead in the 2008 Democratic primary, the political news media has faced the accusation that they are “in the tank” for the now-second term President Obama. On Sunday morning’s Reliable Sources, the press got a qualified defense from a surprising source: Mitt Romney chief strategist Stuart Stevens. Host Howard Kurtz asked Stevens if ” much of the media is in the tank for Barack Obama,” to which Stevens replied, “In the tank? I would say no.”

“Do you believe, today, that much of the media is in the tank for Barack Obama?” Kurtz asked.

Stevens replied, “It’s not a yes or a no question. In the tank, I would say no. So, yes or no question, I would say no.”

Kurtz pressed the line of questioning several times. “Too sympathetic to the President? How would you put it?” he asked.

“I think after the election, you’ll have a lot tougher questions that will be asked because you’re out of an election environment,” Stevens replied. “I think you’re seeing that this past weekend with this whole golf outing. I think they will be more critical now.”

A surprised Kurtz asked, “You’re saying the press should be finally more critical about the fact that President Obama went golfing with Tiger Woods?”

“The degree to which there is not a choice between him and a Republican candidate makes it easier for them to be tougher on the President,” Stevens replied. “That’s natural.”

In hindsight; there was no way Mitt Romney could have won with the team he assembled, and I am truly flabbergasted that I was so wrong to assume that Romney would bring the same A-game he brought to selecting teams to turn around failing companies to his campaign.

The fact that Stu Stevens and his team do not see and actually never saw the media’s heavy bias in favor of the President during the campaign means there was not, at any point, any path to victory for Mitt Romney. People this blind and lacking in perception would have eventually snatched defeat from the jaws of victory no matter what had gone right; these are the people who quickly advised Mitt Romney to “tone it down” after his excellent performance in the first debate and go into prevent-defense to “appeal to Independents and women.”

Even worse is the fact that these people continue to give themselves high marks for the utter fiasco of a campaign they ran.

Considering what we went through with Steve Schmidt and prior to that, the tragedy that was the Bush White House’s political and communications operation, I’ve had to come to the sad conclusion that right now, when it comes to political operatives, electoral experts, campaign strategists, etc, Democrats get the cream of the crop, while Republicans are stuck with the slimy fetid fungus that feeds on the decaying scum encrusting the bottom of the barrel.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaigning; obama; romney; romney20112; stustevens
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To: NYer

Real Republicans didn’t want Romney as a candidate. We could see as early as more than 5 years ago that he didn’t want to be President, and that he couldn’t win.


81 posted on 02/27/2013 3:42:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Real Republicans didn’t want Romney as a candidate. We could see as early as more than 5 years ago that he didn’t want to be President, and that he couldn’t win.

Then why did the GOP support him? It just does not make any sense. Why did I waste my vote and my contribution on someone who did not want to be president? What was gained by this? The GOP is in disarray ... without direction. I am a Conservative, a Catholic and I vote my conscience.

82 posted on 02/27/2013 3:52:20 PM PST by NYer (“Beware the man of a single book.” - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer
Look, I can't help it if you ignored my counsel in the matter of Romney and the Presidency. Maybe it's something lingering in the nether reaches of your brain regarding pretensions of authority ~ and how this guy is going to try to look Presidential so you'll be agreeable to his nomination.

I was not tricked.

83 posted on 02/27/2013 4:09:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; ml/nj; Impy; InterceptPoint; little jeremiah; patriot08; All
What it looks like is McCain and Romney both failed to get normal growth ~ and instead not only lost normal growth, they lost some of the core Republican voters.

I really can't comment on national popular vote totals unless you can guarantee me that they were real and reasonably accurate. I have a hunch that due to various types of fraud, including fraud in the counting of votes by electronic devices, Romney's reported national popular vote may have really been higher than officially reported. One can hack into a vote counting device to cause an undercount for the candidate whom you want to lose, just as easy as you can cause an overcount for the candidate whom you want to win. Also possibly contributing to a falsely low reported vote total are instances when absentee ballots for Republican candidates are arbitrarily discarded by compromised election board workers or instances when local election boards failed to get ballots out to absentee voters in a timely fashion. There were reports of such instances of the latter type which effectively disenfanchised military personnel abroad.

IIRC, the total popular vote reported for all presidential candidates was less in 2012 than in 2008, without any apparent logical reason for such a dropoff.

84 posted on 02/27/2013 5:20:19 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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Correction to my post # 84:

Romney's real national popular vote may have been been higher than officially reported.

85 posted on 02/27/2013 5:27:02 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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Correction to my post # 84:

Romney's real national popular vote may have been higher than officially reported.

86 posted on 02/27/2013 5:27:58 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
There is a reason for a lower vote total ~ in the aggregate ~ (1) both candidates were inferior so many people just didn't bother voting, and (2) the largest single cohort in our population, the Baby Boomers, are moved into their 66th year and the FAR HIGHER DEATH RATES that come with getting old!

That's no excuse for Republicans and Democrats mounting campaigns to register new voters ~ AMONG THE YOUNG. That didn't happen because the Democrats fear the young hate them for having left them unemployed for the last 6 years (since the 2006 takeover of the House) and the Republicans think the young are simply lazy because 20 million people can't get jobs.

87 posted on 02/27/2013 5:28:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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88 posted on 02/27/2013 5:29:33 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: justiceseeker93

I think you’re on to something.


89 posted on 02/27/2013 6:29:55 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


90 posted on 02/27/2013 8:22:42 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: justiceseeker93; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; SunkenCiv; GeronL; NFHale; ...
“Do you believe, today, that much of the media is in the tank for Barack Obama?” Kurtz asked.

Stevens replied, “It’s not a yes or a no question. In the tank, I would say no. So, yes or no question, I would say no.”

Hmm is this guy a dimwit or what? I mean that's NOT REALLY A YES OR NO QUESTION but I'm gonna say YES.

91 posted on 02/27/2013 9:26:49 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: NYer
I am a Conservative, a Catholic and I vote my conscience.

What does this mean?

I see lots of Catholics on FR, and they vary all over the place.

I see lots of Conservatives, too; and they, likewise; have differing points of view.

I'm curious as to what your conscience tells you.

92 posted on 02/28/2013 3:38:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: justiceseeker93
IIRC, the total popular vote reported for all presidential candidates was less in 2012 than in 2008, without any apparent logical reason for such a dropoff.

It's apparent to ME!

People will NOT waste much of their time engaging in an endevour that they think will not benefit themselves in some way.

93 posted on 02/28/2013 3:39:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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People will NOT waste much of their time engaging in an endevour that they think will not benefit themselves in some way.

I can see some people thinking that, but Obama, by last year's election, was such a polarizing figure in comparison to 2008 that there seemed intuitively more motivation among the general public to vote against him and benefit by getting him out of office. I believe that the TV ratings for the presidential debates in 2012 surpassed that of 2008, the number of eligible voters increased with the general population increase, the size of the crowds drawn by the Romney campaign in comparison to McCain in '08 (albeit Romney wasn't the ideal GOP candidate in the opinion of many) were larger, and there were historically long lines of voters at polling places reported around the country. These were indicators of a larger total turnout, with Romney the likely beneficiary. Turned out that the reported vote counts weren't consistent with these observations.

So the question is why. One of the possible explanations is massive fraud and cheating in the electoral process, on an unprecedented scale, including hacking into electronic voting equipment so as to alter objective vote counts (which is technically doable). This could have both increased the reported Obama popular vote and decreased the reported Romney popular vote, and could have been decisive in several swing states.

94 posted on 02/28/2013 3:39:43 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Long lines at the polls always happen every 20 years when the first national election after the Census is a Presidential election. That's true for 2012, 1992, 1972, 1952..... All the way back.

The reason is very simple ~ REDISTRICTING.

It always takes at least one election after redistricting to figure out which precincts have to be beefed up, or consolidated, or moved!

When that first election is a Presidential election people notice. When it's just a mid-term election, there's such a steep drop-off in interest, and voting, no one in particular cares ~ other than the folks responsible for setting up polling stations ~ they fix problems before the next election.

I must be getting old to know that piece off wisdom and to have so many politicians and newsies running off at the mouth imagining that a line of voters means anything at all.

It doesn't!.

95 posted on 02/28/2013 3:47:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: justiceseeker93; NYer; Impy; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93, NYer, and Impy.
96 posted on 02/28/2013 5:01:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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