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Someone Tell President Obama: American Bridges Aren't "Crumbling"
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| 02/23/2013
| Kevin Glass
Posted on 02/23/2013 12:09:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
President Obama has been on a blitz while pushing what seems to be an evergreen priority for Democrats these days: "infrastructure investment." In his State of the Union speech, President Obama spoke of Merica's "deteriorating roads and bridges" and proposed what he called a "Fix-It-First" program that would see the government hire construction workers to work on America's infrastructure.
This worry is overblown. The Reason Foundation put out a report this week that found America's infrastructure is in fine shape, though there's certainly work to be done.
All 50 states lowered their highway fatality rates from 1989 to 2008 and 40 states reduced their percentages of deficient bridges during that time. Nationwide, the number of deficient bridges in the country fell from 37.8 percent of all bridges in 1989 to 23.7 percent in 2008.
The Reason Foundation study tracks spending per mile on state-owned roads and measures road performance in seven categories: miles of urban Interstate highways in poor pavement condition, miles of rural Interstates in poor condition, congestion on urban Interstates, deficient bridges, highway fatalities, rural primary roads in poor condition and the number of rural primary roads flagged as too narrow.
Moreover, if America's infrastructure is in bad shape, it's not because of a lack of government spending. Reason Foundation found that inflation-adjusted infrastructure spending has grown by 60% in the last twenty years despite the government controlling roughly the same amount of road mileage.
It's popular to cite th World Economic Forum rankings of world infrastructure, but misleading. The U.S. was ranked 16th in infrastructure according to the WEF, behind similar countries like Canada. But the top countries in the world for infrastructure are small and dense - those of the Netherlands and Singapore, for example. Among the world's largest countries, the U.S. stands behind only Canada, and among the world's most populous countries is bested by France, Germany and Japan. U.S. infrastructure certainly comes out well compared to the rest of the European Union, as Charles Lane pointed out.
There are certainly things that the federal government can and should do in the area of infrastructure investment. Last year, Ed Glaeser laid out a positive agenda - because President Obama at the time was on a previous pro-infrastrucutre blitz - for infrastructure investment that would focus on market reforms and decentralization that would fix what needs to be fixed while staying humble in scope.
LET USERS PAY: In the early days, we paid for infrastructure, such as the Erie Canal and the Brooklyn Bridge, by charging tolls. That was easy to do, as demand for these improvements was enormous. But our fondness for big projects gradually and dangerously moved us away from this ideal. The Highway System is meant to be funded with gas taxes paid into the Highway Trust Fund, but funding formulas mean that the taxes each state pays into the fund rarely match the money received.
The stimulus delivered a dollop of highway spending provided with general tax dollars, and the Congressional Budget Office projects that the Trust Fund will be broke by 2014. Yet Congress is now promoting a vast new road spending bill. The budget the president presented yesterday supports paying for infrastructure with current user-financed mechanisms, but also proposes tapping part of the savings from ending the war in Iraq and winding down operations in Afghanistan, which just means using general tax revenue to pay for highways.
DE-FEDERALIZE TRANSPORT SPENDING: Most forms of transport infrastructure overwhelmingly serve the residents of a single state. Yet the federal government has played an outsized role in funding transportation for 50 years. Whenever the person paying isnt the person who benefits, there will always be a push for more largesse and little check on spending efficiency. Would Detroits People Mover have ever been built if the people of Detroit had to pay for it? We should move toward a system in which states and localities take more responsibility for the infrastructure that serves their citizens.
INSTITUTIONALIZE MAINTENANCE FUNDING: Throughout the world, political leaders love to cut ribbons on new projects, but they hate the hard work of maintaining older infrastructure. The natural result is that bridges become unsafe and highways are riddled with potholes. As I suspect that states and localities will always do too little to invest in maintenance, this would be a good place to redirect federal spending.
Instead of funding new projects, the Highway Trust Fund could instead become solely a road and bridge maintenance fund. Obamas 2013 budget moves in this direction by espousing a fix-it-first policy, but that isnt the same as tying future tax revenue to needed maintenance.
Despite President Obama's dire warnings, American infrastructure is not "crumbling." Infrastructure investment isn't a magic wand for economic sluggishness. There are positive steps in a federal infrastructure reform agenda that can be undertaken, but President Obama's dire warnings about the decrepit state of American infrastructure aren't true and aren't helping move the conversation forward.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; infrastructure; kevinglass; obama; partisanmediashills; sequester
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To: SeekAndFind
He told uninformed voters and spineless republicans that the bridges were crumbling in order to get the first stimulus that he pissed away on solar energy scams run by his backers.
It worked once, why not again?
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:13:11 PM PST
by
Baynative
(Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
To: SeekAndFind
Infrastructure investment isn't a magic wand for economic sluggishness. While I recognize that roads and bridges are important, it certainly seems that Obama does consider them to be a sort of magic wand that grows the economy. I might, rather, suggest the following:
Tax policies that affect businesses
Tariff policies that affect overseas competitors and domestic exporters.
Environmental policies.
Private capital that builds factories.
Private employers determining their own wage and benefit packages and hiring to suit those packages.
You can grow the economy. You can increase wealth. You can employ people.
Roads and Bridges do not do these things in any really meaningful way.
(And I think Barry the Destroyer knows that.)
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:15:09 PM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(Nothing will change until after the war.)
To: Baynative
RE: It worked once, why not again?
You know the old adage: “Fool Me Once, Shame on You, Full Me Twice...” (Fill in the words)
To: Baynative
RE: It worked once, why not again?
You know the old adage: Fool Me Once, Shame on You, Fool Me Twice... (Fill in the words)
To: Baynative
If you are living in a county that has a bridge on the borderline of failure...it’s your county council, and your state officials who are responsible. The minute you go beyond that line and start expecting federal help for every single bridge or highway in America....which invokes some guy in Washington to save you....you’ve screwed up and might as well forget about things being simple.
The same is true for your teachers and the condition of your local school. Either the county board and the state are doing their job, or they are failures. If they can’t do their job....then just step down and allow the system to work.
We’ve all allowed some Jesus-political figures to seem awful big and important at the federal level. It’s time to let the locally elected guys do their job.
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:25:43 PM PST
by
IbJensen
(Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
To: pepsionice
The Tappan Zee Bridge, is a cantilever bridge in the U.S. state of New York, crossing the Hudson River at one of its widest points. As an integral conduit within the New York Metropolitan Area, it connects South Nyack in Rockland County with Tarrytown in Westchester County in the Lower Hudson Valley.
The bridge is part of the New York State Thruway mainline and is also designated as Interstate 87 and Interstate 287. The span carries seven lanes of motor traffic.
About 140,000 vehicles cross the 3.1-mile Tappan Zee Bridge every day, with volumes as high as 170,000 during peak traffic.
If nothing is done to relieve congestion in the I-287 Corridor between Suffern and Port Chester, by 2030 traffic crossing the bridge will increase to about 200,000 cars per day.
The bridge does not meet current seismic criteria. It also does not have shoulders to accommodate emergency vehicles and breakdowns.
n 1955, the Tappan Zee Bridge was built during a period of material shortages with a 50-year life span. Although it was designed to handle a maximum capacity of 80,000 cars, the structure far exceeds the recommended limit with an average of 140,000 vehicles per day. Now seven years past its intended life cycle, the Tappan Zee Bridge is functionally obsolete and no longer able to safely meet traffic demands. Not only with the new design remedy the bridges lack of a shoulder and narrow lanes (widths failed to meet interstate standards), it will also include dedicated emergency lanes.
I believe there is a case for Federal support for strengthening this bridge since it is an important gateway to and from NJ, NY and CT.
To: SeekAndFind
There is an intersection in my neighborhood at two roads with no walkways — “country roads”. The obama stimlis money paid to have wheel chair accessible curbs put in at each corner. It is a beautifully classic waste. You can roll your chair around and around the intersection, but there is ultimately no where to go and no where to come from.
To: SeekAndFind
Take a drive across the Ambassador bridge and you’ll understand why a second span is being built. However the Ambassador bridge is privately owned by Detroit’s biggest democrat donor and slumlord so Obama won’t be claiming that one.
I am waiting for him to claim the new international crossing since Canada is paying for that.
At the end of the day, we have more than enough infrastructure money if infrastructure was what it was actually paying for. On the bright side” Ann Arbor Michigan was approved for an $800,000 transportation grant to pave a bike path. /s.
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:29:59 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
To: pepsionice
“...its your county council, and your state officials who are responsible.”
We already pay huge gasoline taxes for roads and bridges at both the state and federal level. The real problem is that politicians piss away that $$ for votes and then claim to be broke. It’s a criminal racket up and down the line.
You are correct about this being more a state and local function. Your comment that, “If they cant do their job....then just step down and allow the system to work,” made me smile at your naivete. It is up to us to hold them accountable. “We” are the ones failing at our jobs.
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:36:41 PM PST
by
Owl558
("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
To: SeekAndFind
Clinton said the same thing and “promised” to rebuild our infrastructure. Wasn’t the first trillion dollar stimulus supposed to put people to work on our infrastructure? How about the second stimulus? The fact is that hundreds of billions are allocated to infrastructure every year and have been for decades.
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:43:20 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
To: SeekAndFind
Wonder what they spend all the fuel tax revenue on?.
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:43:55 PM PST
by
Vaduz
To: Born to Conserve
As much as I hated to admit it, Jenny Granholm was at least partially right about allowing some roads to return to dirt.
25 or 30 years ago all the dirt roads around my hometown were paved because the heavy trucks building oil and gas infrastructure were tearing up the roads. After about 5 years the trucks were gone and here we are 25 years later paying to maintain paved roads that see 10 or 15 cars per day.
Obviously you don’t want high traffic dirt highways but there needs to be better criteria for how we pay to maintain our roads. I live on a dirt street and its just fine because only 2 other houses have access to it.
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posted on
02/23/2013 12:46:50 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
To: SeekAndFind
“I believe there is a case for Federal support for strengthening this bridge”
It is all commuter/local traffic — New York’s responsibility. This is true for all of the bridges in the NYC area — only a tiny percentage of the traffic is interstate.
The Federal government should put in a highway that bypasses NYC’s local traffic, a “wormhole” that connects central NJ to central CT, and has no exits near NYC.
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
02/23/2013 1:18:19 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
To: cripplecreek
Look up when driving under concrete bridges, because there are two kinds of concrete: concrete that's cracking, and concrete that's about to crack.
Here in Massachusetts, there are many concrete highway overpasses dating from the 1920s. For years, I was nervous about driving under them. People thought I was crazy. About five years ago the highway department began putting nets under them. Some chunks must have fallen out.
You don't want to hit any size of concrete chunk while driving at 55 mph.
I'm amazed that they are still building new overpasses with concrete, like the giant ones on Rte. 84 near Hartford, CT.
To: SeekAndFind
I think the pilings of the Tappan Zee are made out of wood. Seriously. Yes, it’s way past it’s expiration date.
To: cripplecreek
“.....roads that see 10 or 15 cars per day.”
You have my envy. It was like that when we bought our property about 30 years ago. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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posted on
02/23/2013 1:42:19 PM PST
by
Gator113
( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
To: SeekAndFind
It certainly isn’t an epidemic or chicken-little proportion Obama wants to make it out to be.
Some actually are though. The Hohn Bridge where I am actually is. Thanks to democrats largely, they were letting it go to hell in order that they could tear it down and have one less easy way in and out of Milwaukee for many south side residents.
Doyle and the State DOT let it rot and fall apart. Walker now has funds allocated to repair it and it’s a priority project.
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posted on
02/23/2013 1:42:32 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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