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To: Friendofgeorge

I have been in such a quandry over whether the Catholic Church = the Vatican. That is, should I consider all the failings of the Pope and the Vatican as a reason to reject the Catholic church due to its imperfect leadership? Similarly, I come to the same question about my country: America = America’s Govt. All the failings, improprieties and illegalities perpetrated by my Govt. means my country sucks, too??? What do we do to bring it back to where it’s supposed to be? Walk away like you did because there is no way to change the Church from within? Walk away from my country because of the same reason?


9 posted on 02/23/2013 7:54:15 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

When you have Catholics openly voting for pro abortion politicians/presidents etc, Catholics etc openly saying they support gay marriage abortion etc

When you have other so called Christian denominations, marrying homosexuals, ordaining Homosexuals etc

We have to choose at some point, are you with The Lord or not, people will have to ask themselves these questions, especially when they start to talk of moderation because of the times we live in etc.

There are many many Christian Churches, non denominational,many Pentecostal Churches the list is long, one does not have to continue with Churches that are not 150% Bible based.

If you walk in to a truly Christian Church,you will find ZERO pro choice members, you will find ZERO members that support any type of anti Christian non Biblical views.

You will find zero members that would even consider to vote Democrat

People will need to shake the dust off their boots and say...I AM WITH THE LORD JESUS

The selection for the next Pope will be the same as a political party picking a leader, no different


10 posted on 02/23/2013 8:17:55 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Sioux-san

You are confusing impeccability with infallibility. Popes are humans and can sin — they are not impeccable.

But when they decree a dogma/or the magesterium does in matters of faith and morals — the decisions are always guided by the Holy Spiriit and become infalliable.


13 posted on 02/23/2013 8:44:58 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sioux-san; Friendofgeorge
I think Jesus answered that question rather succinctly.

Revelation 18:4 "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

23 posted on 02/23/2013 5:07:52 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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To: Sioux-san; Friendofgeorge
I think Jesus answered that question rather succinctly.

Revelation 18:4 "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

24 posted on 02/23/2013 5:07:52 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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