Posted on 02/22/2013 1:16:11 PM PST by EXCH54FE
BELLEVUE, WA --(Ammoland.com)- The Second Amendment Foundation today won a significant victory for concealed carry when the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals let stand a December ruling by a three-judge panel of the court that forces Illinois to adopt a concealed carry law, thus affirming that the right to bear arms exists outside the home.
The ruling came in Moore v. Madigan, a case filed by SAF. The December opinion that now stands was written by Judge Richard Posner, who gave the Illinois legislature 180 days to “craft a new gun law that will impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public safety and the Second Amendment…on the carrying of guns in public.”
That clock is ticking, noted SAF Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb.
“Illinois lawmakers need to create some kind of licensing system or face the prospect of not having any regulations at all when Judge Posner’s deadline arrives,” Gottlieb said. “They need to act. They can no longer run and hide from this mandate.”
“We were delighted with Judge Posner’s ruling in December,” he continued, “and today’s decision by the entire circuit to allow his ruling to stand is a major victory, and not just for gun owners in Illinois. Judge Posner’s ruling affirmed that the right to keep and bear arms, itself, extends beyond the boundary of one’s front door.”
In December, Judge Posner wrote, “The right to ‘bear’ as distinct from the right to ‘keep’ arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of ‘bearing’ arms within one’s home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home.”
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Good on Alan Gottlieb and SAF.
They are doing excellent work on the legal front.
A good day for the rights of citizens. Considering the other affronts ongoing and being attempted, this is good news indeed. Hope the 7th Circuit holds their feet to the fire and requires action no matter any appeals process.
Wonder if Madigan will take this to the Supremes? It would be great to have this ruling applicable throughout the country! I guess the SAF will if she doesn’t.
If they do then everyone in IL can carry without a permit after 180 days, if they otherwise aren't barred from owning guns.
“Left-wing judges will next turn their backs on stare decisis.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point we see the Obama administration (perhaps through his proxies on the Supreme Court, Kagan and Sotomayer) come out as officially opposed to the concept of “stare decisis”, making the argument that changing times require changed positions on key issues.
“The decisions of those old white guys from the past... should not be used as a club to govern the multicolored Americans of today!”
Exactly. But it will be a one-way street.
Precidents set by "old white guys" will be fair game for the circular file. Precident set by judges who found "the right way" will be treated with the greatest respect, considered untouchable.
The same way the Senate democrats try to end the filibuster when they're in control, but you know perfectly well would scream and yell for its return the second they're in the minority.
And the MSM will take up both sides of the argument too, without the slightest embarrassment.
Welcome to the land of the Free and the Home of the Low Information Voter.
soory- Judge you are dead wrong-wrong-wrong - the right to bear arms is a WAR term which EXPLICITLY means to carry, furnish, be equipped with, support arms, for WAR.
Look it up in the 19th century Webster dictionaries that have been faithful to its centuries-old true etymology.
KEEP has nothing to do with arms in the home- it means you can KEEP ARMS ANYWHERE=- VIZ= The Second Amendment has no limits on geographical location nor firepower.
French, Dutch and English documents dating from the 15th Century all have BEARING ARMS and WAR in the same sentences. Look it up, BEARING ARMS is never used anywhere in self defence “AGAINST BURGLARS..”
preposterous!
Definition of to “KEEP” ‘ to preserve and maintain.. TO GUARD; DEFEND
to “KEEP” `means NOT TO LET GO ONE`S POSSESSION OR CONTROL’
“KEEPER”,n., “one who watches, GUARDS, maintains”
to “BEAR: 1. to support and move; CARRY.
2. to be equipped furnished ..as to BEAR A SWORD.
3, to be directed; to be pointed, as TO PLANT GUNS TO BEAR UPON AS TRENCH’”
Webster`s Dictionary 1887
soory- Judge you are dead wrong-wrong-wrong - the right to bear arms is a WAR term which EXPLICITLY means to carry, furnish, be equipped with, support arms, for WAR.
Look it up in the 19th century Webster dictionaries that have been faithful to its centuries-old true etymology.
KEEP has nothing to do with arms in the home- it means you can KEEP ARMS ANYWHERE=- VIZ= The Second Amendment has no limits on geographical location nor firepower.
French, Dutch and English documents dating from the 15th Century all have BEARING ARMS and WAR in the same sentences. Look it up, BEARING ARMS is never used anywhere in self defence “AGAINST BURGLARS..”
preposterous!
Definition of to “KEEP” ‘ to preserve and maintain.. TO GUARD; DEFEND
to “KEEP” `means NOT TO LET GO ONE`S POSSESSION OR CONTROL’
“KEEPER”,n., “one who watches, GUARDS, maintains”
to “BEAR: 1. to support and move; CARRY.
2. to be equipped furnished ..as to BEAR A SWORD.
3, to be directed; to be pointed, as TO PLANT GUNS TO BEAR UPON AS TRENCH’”
Webster`s Dictionary 1887
Pinging marktwain!
When will we get a ruling like this that applies to the poor schmucks who live in the most populous state (by far) of Union — California — limiting the unlimited power of the vile SOBs in Sacramento? What, the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply to 12% of the American people?
“It is now up to the legislature,” Gottlieb said, “to craft a statute that recognizes the right of ordinary citizens to carry outside the home, without a sea of red tape or a requirement to prove any kind of need beyond the cause of personal protection.”
We need this in my state. I can’t even carry a rifle in the car and rounds at the same time and I am considered to be carrying a loaded weapon. SO? I’m carrying a loaded F150, a hunting knife, and a tire iron too.
I just want to keep a .22 in the truck loaded with some stingers in case of emergency...is that so wrong?
the judge did the right thing.
Remember, Spell Check and Grammer Check are your friends.
More especially, it cannot be believed that the large slaveholding States regarded them as included in the word citizens, or would have consented to a Constitution which might compel them to receive them in that character from another State. For if they were so received, and entitled to the privileges and immunities of citizens, it would exempt them from the operation of the special laws and from the police regulations which they considered to be necessary for their own safety.It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went. And all of this would be done in the face of the subject race of the same color, both free and slaves, and inevitably producing discontent and insubordination among them, and endangering the peace and safety of the State.
The right to bear arms is the right to carry.
The right to bare arms is the right to have shirts without sleeves.
The other kind of bear is the furry kind.
WOW!
Don't forget Grammar Check.
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