Posted on 02/15/2013 7:36:18 PM PST by marktwain
Universal background checks before gun purchases can have an enormous impact on reducing firearm-related deaths, according to testimony presented before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee this week.
Missouri, the site of President Barack Obama’s recent gun control speech, had a firm “permit-to-purchase” law in place until 2007, when it was repealed. The law -- which both the Missouri Sport Shooting Association and NRA helped overturn -- required Missouri residents to obtain a sheriff’s permit before purchasing a concealable weapon.
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While gun rights lobbyists, led by the National Rifle Association, claim criminal background checks before all purchases are impractical and unnecessary, research from the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research found that strict guidelines may actually reduce gun-related homicides.
Missouri, the site of President Barack Obama’s recent gun control speech, had a firm “permit-to-purchase” law in place until 2007, when it was repealed. The law -- which both the Missouri Sport Shooting Association and NRA helped overturn -- required Missouri residents to obtain a sheriff’s permit before purchasing a concealable weapon.
Although, under federal law, gun dealers are already required to run background checks on individuals purchasing handguns, that regulation only applies to licensed dealers. The Missouri law went one step further by mandating background checks on the sale and transfer of firearms between individuals and unlicensed dealers.
“Preliminary evidence suggests that the increase in the diversion of guns to criminals linked to the law’s repeal may have translated into increases in homicides committed with firearms,” Webster said in his written testimony to the Senate. “From 1999 through 2007, Missouri’s age-adjusted homicide rate was relatively stable, fluctuating around a mean of 4.66 per 100,000 population per year. In 2008, the first full year after the permit-to-purchase licensing law was repealed, the age-adjusted firearm homicide rate in Missouri increased sharply to 6.23 per 100,000 population, a 34 percent increase. For the post-repeal period of 2008-2010, the mean annual age-adjusted firearm homicide rate was 5.82, 25 percent above the pre-repeal mean.”
Firearm homicide rates is a propaganda metric. I want to see the total homicide rate before and after.
“Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research”
After seeing the source, I don’t need to know anything else. Its like getting an analytical study on economics from the old Soviet Union.
Frankly, I don’t even care what the numbers are, because I don’t agree with the premise.
If they want to cut homicide rates in half, they could blind black males at birth. Statistically, that would do the trick. Now is that acceptable? Hell, no.
So eliminating my rights is a not starter, no matter what they claim the benefit will be.
The Johns Hopkins gun policy is funded by the Joyce Foundation. All gun grabbing work usually leads to the Joyce Foundation. One of their board members also used to be one Bacrock Hussein Osama.
Looks like background check legislation could be passed by congress and become law. My problem with that it could violate some citizen’s 1nd Amendment rights due to errors in the system.
For example there are errors in the “no-fly” database and some law abiding citizens get booted off public airlines flights.
But even more egregious to me is charging a fee for gun licensing, background checks & concealed carry permits. That most certainly will make it difficult for poor people to own guns.
There was a jump in the overall murder rate in 2008. The murder rates from 2004 to 2011 are as follows: 6.15, 6.95, 6.30, 6.55, 7.65 (2008), 6.46, 7.00, 6.09(2011).
Interestingly, there were large increases in the murder rate right after the 1968 national gun law was passed, prohibiting sales across state lines:
1966, 5.42, 1967 7.32, 1968 8.81, 1969 10.41, 1970 10.66.
So it appears that the 1968 national gun control program pushed up homicide rates much more than a repeal of background checks might have in 2007-2008.
Too many factors to really consider, but this will be a talking point to try to push for universal gun registration.
Missori should be Missouri.
They don’t do any research either. They write white papers, policy position papers.
And their papers are so poorly sourced that they’re effectively worthless, except as propaganda.
Has anyone else noticed the seemingly escalation in violent multi victim gun related murders since obama took office? I would like to see a graph. You can’t watch the news anymore without multimurders involving guns being reported. Either they are being orchestrated on some human level, or it is because of the vast empowerment of satanic forces let loose on society through obama’s influence.
Looks like they didn’t bother to focus in any further than needed to get the conclusion they were hoping for. Nothing about whether other serious crime rose too, or what demographics were involved.
I think, yes, Barack Obama is part of a devils’ plan. Of himself, he appears to be a figurehead for the Democrats more than a politician with a personal philosophy.
Lie. The source proves it’s a lie.
It would be edifying to identify the particular twist that got this likely misrepresentation going. While a few exceptions exist, and for all we know this might be one, the general proven rule IS that more guns mean less crime towards honest citizens and overall.
Let's see, 4.66 per 100,000 goes to 6.23 per 100,000 which is an increase of less than 2 per 100,000. Without knowing the standard deviation of the "relatively stable" 4.66 rate it is difficult to judge but given that even that "spike" fell back to a ten year average increase of 1.2 per 100,000 I'd say that was statistically insignificant.
Regards,
GtG
It changed in one year because the state background check law was repealed? BS! All FFLs still had to comply with FedMob NICs checks. No supporting data to reach any such conclusion given in the article. Pure propaganda.
If there’s a problem, I suspect it would be with the “unlicensed dealers.” Whatever that is.
You can’t win these types of political arguments with statistics. For one thing, they are overused. For another, each side has their statistics and both believe the other is wrong. It just comes down to each faction quoting “facts” without either side changing many minds.
It comes down to this: we have a contract with the federal government called the US Constitution. The 2nd Amendment restrains government from infringing on the right to own and use guns. Don’t believe in guns? Don’t own them. Like guns? Buy whatever you want.
The President of the United States, Congress, and judges cannot legally or morally take away 2nd Amendment rights. Anyone who wants to go beyond their personal choice to bear arms (or not) and force their will on others is required to first amend the US Constitution. That’s how it was designed to work. Don’t want your neighbor to have guns? Amend the constitution, then we can talk.
So I don’t really care if universal background checks decrease or increase murders by some measureable amount. Maybe murders would be cut in half by universal background checks. That might be a good selling point for a constitutional amendment, but it isn’t justification by itself to ignore the law of the land, the US Constitution.
Crimes committed by Obama Loving Liberal Voters versus Crimes committed by Constitution Loving Conservative Voters.
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