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How Can You Close the College Saving Gap?
Townhall.com ^ | February 14, 2013 | Carrie Schwab Pomerantz

Posted on 02/14/2013 1:12:15 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/14/2013 1:12:18 PM PST by Kaslin
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First, you find all the community colleges within driving distance and sign up to those for the first two years. Second, if the kid is fairly smart...sign up for CLEP and DANTES testing on five or six subjects. Almost all community colleges will accept a couple of these as part of the overall credit. Finally, maybe the kid realizes after two years that some technical area at the community college was better than wasting four years at a real college.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 1:15:18 PM PST by pepsionice
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Community College for the basic courses, a State School for the last two years; Or online learning (from MIT, etc.)


3 posted on 02/14/2013 1:15:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

DO NOT borrow money from the Federal government “Direct Loan” program! We did that for one year and they are a nightmare to deal with. But what did we expect from a bureaucracy created to fund 0bamacare?

We can, by pinching pennies, pay for about 80-90% of our son’s costs out of current income. The rest we are paying through our home equity line of credit. Lower interest rate and the interest is still tax-deductible as mortgage interest. It’s much better than the government route.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 1:16:48 PM PST by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Kaslin
Here's one:

Do cost/benefit analysis on the degrees your daughters pursue.

If you don't do this, then you have no right to complain when they are buried in college debt and waiting tables at Applebee's.

5 posted on 02/14/2013 1:17:10 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Kaslin

Allow the promise of the web to full filled.

The Sate University Unions don’t allow classes to be taught online.


6 posted on 02/14/2013 1:17:21 PM PST by NoLibZone (It's time folks. It's time. Posting aint gonna cut it.)
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Don’t send ‘em to college. The return on investment is minimal to non-existent and you and they will have to suffer through a lifetime of leftist indoctrination.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 1:19:10 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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My lessons learned from college financial aid?

No one pays the full amount, except for Bill Gates’ kids.

Do not have savings in the childrens’ names. It is taken right off the top before financial aid is calculated

Do not contribute to 529’s. It also is taken right off the top before financial aid is considered.

Or, in some states, after child is accepted at college and financial aid is calculated, open a 529 and put the maximum amount in. Withdraw it the next day to pay for college expenses. You still get the state tax deduction.

Assets, such as primary home, are less important, vs. W-2 income, which should be minimized.

Like most things the Gov’t does, its anti-family - its better off if you are divorced. Child can go with the spouse who has lowest income for FAFSA calculation

Now that the Gov’t controls education, financial aid and higher-education is like welfare, medicaid and foodstamps - the prudent and conservative pay more. Scammers pay less.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 1:23:37 PM PST by PGR88
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It depends on why they are going to college. If they want a technical degree; engineering, chemistry, medicine, yes, they need to go to college. I am not going to see a doctor who “self studied.”

For the rest, it’s optional.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 1:25:43 PM PST by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: PGR88

FAFSA and Direct Loans are the collegiate collective farm, comrade. And they are just government rip-offs.


10 posted on 02/14/2013 1:27:26 PM PST by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: elkfersupper

Paying to send your kids to hell doesn’t sound like a good investment.


11 posted on 02/14/2013 1:29:06 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That is a great idea!

Other ideas: Tell the kids right up front (say, about sophomore year of high school) the fixed amount you are willing to pay and for what time frame. Whether it is $50,000/year for 8 years or $10,000/year for 4 years, be sure they know what you are willing to put on the line, so that they will own any decisions that require them to take on debt.

Help them see the “cost” of going longer than is really needed, and the “cost” of going for degrees that are worthless. At one point my daughter thought she might not graduate (BSN/RN) in 4 years. I showed her that one more year of college would cost X for more school expenses PLUS Y for the lack of income at her occupation for that extra year; which made it more than twice the “cost”... about a week later, she had met with an advisor, and they worked out a plan that kept her on track for the 4 year graduation.

Be sure they understand the “cost” of taking student loans that will end up just financing a party or frivolous lifestyle while in college. The extra $100 or $300 per month, borrowed now to allow for plenty of pizza and beer, turns fairly daunting when amortized for the 10 year repayment plan, with interest....

Consider deferring borrowing as long as possible and/or making some interest payments while the kid is still in school; will keep the interest from compounding the first 4 years or so.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 1:32:16 PM PST by NEMDF
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Do what I did...WORK!!!

I was a waiter in college, I made a killing especially on football weekends.

And employers will want to know how you financed your education.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 1:34:01 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Paladin2

Community College for the basic courses, a State School for the last two years;

That’s worked for my son, he graduates in June!


14 posted on 02/14/2013 1:36:29 PM PST by jimmyo57
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To: PGR88; henkster
DO NOT borrow money from the Federal government “Direct Loan” program! We did that for one year and they are a nightmare to deal with.

Damn, you learned that the hard way too! I also found out that there is a huge difference in tuition between colleges in the east (where we live) and in the midwest and west. One year in Virginia, even in a modest conservative college, was more than double what we paid for the same thing in Idaho.

Yeah, it is hard having the kids that far away, but you can buy a lot of airline tickets for the difference in tuition. After the first year, we gave them very little help. With the greatly lowered tuition rate, they didn't need it.

All graduated with less than 20K in loan debt. Not fun, but manageable since they actually learned marketable skills.

15 posted on 02/14/2013 1:37:48 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: henkster; elkfersupper; Kaslin

College doesn’t pay and as it is 100% gov’t funded now you can expect that if they borrow even a penny they WILL be required to work for the gov’t for a number of years to pay it off... it isn’t the rule now but THINGS CHANGE...

I suggest learning a trade ... plumbing , HVAC , splicing fiber cable , anything to do with gas and oil ,, move to Montana ... YES , even for girls.. farming is GOOD ,, have them take out a college loan and buy a 20 acre farm... nothing says the money has to be spent on college ... college kids spend their loan money on tattoos and beer...

WHATEVER YOU DO THEY SHOULD NOT GO INTO ANYTHING MEDICAL OR COMPUTER RELATED.


16 posted on 02/14/2013 1:38:21 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: elkfersupper

Not every child should go to college, even if you can afford to send them


17 posted on 02/14/2013 1:39:07 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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18 posted on 02/14/2013 1:40:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: PGR88
Now that the Gov’t controls education, financial aid and higher-education is like welfare, medicaid and foodstamps - the prudent and conservative pay more. Scammers pay less.

That is 100% true. My children are still about a decade away from college. I tell them already that if they want to go, it is incumbent upon them to display academic excellence or have a special skill (athletic, musical, etc.) and win a pile of scholarship money. Otherwise, community college will do just fine.
19 posted on 02/14/2013 1:40:22 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: henkster
I am not going to see a doctor who “self studied.”

That is due to change under Obamacare.

20 posted on 02/14/2013 1:41:58 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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