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Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin
NY Post ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | CHUCK BENNETT and DAVID K. LI

Posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:43 AM PST by KeyLargo

Edited on 02/14/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Dead Corpse
In this instance they had him cornered and pinned down. He wasn't going anywhere. Plenty of resources onhand to cordon off the area until he ran out of food or offed himself.

Yeah, he was so pinned down that he killed a deputy and wounded another trying to bolt from the cabin. The longer the siege went on, the greater the chance another deputy or two would get hurt or killed.

281 posted on 02/14/2013 12:07:19 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: varyouga
Non-flammable gas for one.

They had already tried that.

282 posted on 02/14/2013 12:08:10 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: null and void

Should and will are worlds apart as you note.
Likely nothing will happen as no charges or complaints will even be entertained.


283 posted on 02/14/2013 12:10:23 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: null and void

“They would have nuked the place from orbit to keep him off the witness stand.”

This is wwhere your paranoid delusions lead you - accusing public authorities of monstrous plans. There is no way that they could have waited the many hours necessary for the Washington approval of the orbital nuking option. Non-nuclear air strikes would be far more feasible than your crazed supposition.

Leave the LAPD alone - they’ve suffered enough!


284 posted on 02/14/2013 12:12:14 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: dirtboy
What difference does it make if he was shot or roasted?

Beats me.

It must make some difference, else why would the police feel compelled to lie?

285 posted on 02/14/2013 12:12:31 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Cboldt
The couple walked in on Dorner and he held them captive for a short period of time..

DORNER WAS HIDING IN THAT CABIN FOR 5 DAYS.. FROM THURSDAY FEB. 7TH TO TUESDAY FEB. 12TH.. Dorner was 'walked in on' by the couple on his last day at that cabin (Tues).

He was hiding 'right under the cops noses' 300 yrds. away from their command post, for five days until the owners of the cabin showed up (The Reynolds).

286 posted on 02/14/2013 12:13:34 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: jda
-- They're technically telling the truth. --

I think they are lying, when they say they did not intend for the structure to catch fire.

-- But, even if the intent was to burn him out - what was the alternative? Wait until he killed a few more law officers or citizens? --

I don't know the lay of the land, but if we believe that the police were able to circumvent his attempt to escape and evade, then an alternative is to wait. The technique for preventing the target from hitting others is to stay behind cover, and the means to protect citizens is to deny them access to the area. Both of these techniques are in common use, and are the usual technique. Resorting to arson is not unheard of, but I know of no case where the police admitted to an attempted arson.

-- If "we the people" stop supporting our police forces and armed services personnel, why should they continue to put their lives on the line for us? --

Hmmm. I'd ask why the people are withholding their support. If the police and armed forces are seem as hostile to the people (by the people), then, by definition, the police and armed forces are putting their lives on the line for an entity other than "the people."

At some point, breakdown of trust becomes a problem. I'm slow to assign blame for the breakdown to "the people." "The people" are more numerous, and don't have direct control over the police or armed forces. For example, I don't blame "the people" for the fact that Obama is a lying sociopath. My mistrust of Obama is driven by his actions, not by mine.

287 posted on 02/14/2013 12:15:40 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Miltie; sickoflibs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYmDEIH4H3A

beat me to it uncle miltie...many of these cheerleading posters get the vapors at the thought of bambam using hellfires on citizens eventually, as well as a 'kill list' which is essentially what lapd had and did...

no tears shed for the krispy kritter, but dayum, imagine if that had been a daycare center or sumthin...

288 posted on 02/14/2013 12:15:55 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: null and void
Some folks on FR seem to take particular umbrage at Dorner getting roasted. I think a lot of people see it as a more gruesome way to go. Maybe the SBSD wants to avoid the possible PR issues of admitting to a deliberate burn? Hard to say.

But the larger point stands, lethal force was justified here, and burning the building ended the siege and the chance that other deputies could get shot.

Now they just need remidial training for the LAPD. Maybe get all officers screened for color blindness so they can tell a blue pickup from a gray one?

289 posted on 02/14/2013 12:16:26 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Coldwater Creek; DManA
There are a lot of riders on our fire insurance, but I don't remember anything about an Act of San Bernadino County Sheriffs

The police ruled Dorner a "Domestic Terrorist" a few days ago.

Check your policy, I'm nearly certain it has a acts of terrorism rider, probably right next to the acts of war rider.

290 posted on 02/14/2013 12:18:21 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: dirtboy

Don’t like the job? Can’t follow the rules?

Find other work.


291 posted on 02/14/2013 12:19:14 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Don’t like the job? Can’t follow the rules?

Please point out any federal, state or local law that prohibits use of deadly force by police when they are confronted by such. Dorner had already killed one deputy in the siege at that location and wounded another, and he had continued to fire at the LEOs outside. He continued to present a lethal threat to them. Lethal force was justified.

292 posted on 02/14/2013 12:22:03 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: slowhandluke; AppyPappy
>>Worrying only about Dorner is unbelievably shortsighted.<<

How about worrying about the rule of law and how it’s not being followed? The LE deciding to "burn him" is no different than Obumer saying "I'll go around Congress".

293 posted on 02/14/2013 12:22:20 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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To: PghBaldy
You are right. I don’t mourn this man, but I don’t like how this was handled, and wonder if Obama or his minions had any input.

I doubt seriously that anyone in this administration would approve of lynching one of Holder's people.

294 posted on 02/14/2013 12:22:55 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: null and void

“Not if you are LAPD..”

Correctomundo Nully!


295 posted on 02/14/2013 12:24:40 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: penelopesire; Travis McGee

It’s amazing to watch FReepers condemn Obumer for doing things without Congress approval or following the rule of law and also condemning other FReepers for demanding the LE follow the rule of law. It makes no sense. But then again little today does.


296 posted on 02/14/2013 12:25:05 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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To: CynicalBear
How about worrying about the rule of law and how it’s not being followed? The LE deciding to "burn him" is no different than Obumer saying "I'll go around Congress".

Hmm, last I checked, no one is shooting at Obama when he says that.

Some of the juxtapositions on this issue are getting absurd. Lethal force was justified here. The cops weren't burning out some innocent homeowner. The guy had just shot and killed a deputy and wounded another on the premises and had refused to surrender and come out.

297 posted on 02/14/2013 12:25:59 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: CynicalBear
condemning other FReepers for demanding the LE follow the rule of law.

Please point out a federal, state or local law that prohibited use of deadly force in that situation - where an armed perp had already killed one deputy, wounded another and continued to fire at officers on the scene, while not coming out after getting tear-gassed.

298 posted on 02/14/2013 12:27:34 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
How about this - let's have the courts decide when you have the right to self defense in the face of lethal force against you - AFTER the incident.

They've been doing that for years.

A recent/current example is Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman.

299 posted on 02/14/2013 12:28:34 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: dirtboy; Uncle Miltie

Seriously? You think the LEOs couldn’t simply hunker down behind bullet proof barricades and waited him out? They had him surrounded. Where was he going to go?


300 posted on 02/14/2013 12:31:25 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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