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First on CNN: NRA charges Obama’s efforts will lead to gun confiscation (Memo confirms NRA claim)
cnn ^ | 2/13/2013 | Mark Preston

Posted on 02/13/2013 9:53:11 AM PST by tobyhill

The National Rifle Association will assert that President Barack Obama’s attempt to enact new gun control laws will result in the “confiscation” of people’s firearms in a new web video scheduled to run in five states and the District of Columbia.

The video will go online around the time Obama begins delivering his State of the Union address, in which he is expected to mention his effort to reduce gun violence through legislative means.

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told CNN that the organization based its warning on what he said is a Justice Department document, “Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies,” that was written in January and given to the NRA.

A Justice Department spokeswoman told CNN that she couldn’t immediately authenticate the document, but did confirm that Greg Ridgeway, whose name appears on it, is currently deputy director of the National Institute of Justice, which is the DOJ’s research arm.

“This internal Justice Department memo says ‘an assault weapons ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence,’ ” NRA’s chief lobbyist Chris Cox says in the video that was provided to CNN before it aired online. “Unlikely, that is, unless it comes with something else. Obama’s experts say that a gun ban, like the one being debated right now in Congress, will not work without mandatory ‘gun buybacks and not exemptions.’ ”

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1 posted on 02/13/2013 9:53:18 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Confiscation
2 posted on 02/13/2013 9:56:50 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: tobyhill

Gee, do you think Obama has that in mind? He’s an active shooter himself, you know. /s


3 posted on 02/13/2013 10:01:08 AM PST by llevrok (Unlike Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: tobyhill
President Barack Obama’s attempt to enact new gun control laws will result in the “confiscation” of people’s firearms

And, you can take THAT to the bank!

4 posted on 02/13/2013 10:01:45 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: tobyhill
Comments turned off, and not one comment disagreeing with the article.

That tells you they were flooded with posts they didn't like.

5 posted on 02/13/2013 10:03:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Fear the government that fears your gun.)
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To: tobyhill

The comments on that page make my blood boil.


6 posted on 02/13/2013 10:04:03 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: tobyhill

Oh, darn CNN...looks like the Democrats are gonna do great in 2014 if this remains an issue!


7 posted on 02/13/2013 10:07:20 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: llevrok
He’s an active shooter himself, you know.

The man described himself as a SKEET shooter. That's something completely different.

8 posted on 02/13/2013 10:08:23 AM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: null and void

Time to remind the LEFT-tards the power is the the People, us Gun owners:

Alinsky can work on Communists too! Every please do your part. Call the manufactures and demand they Boycott NY State Sales just like La Rue Tactical and Olympic Arms have!

Pin it all on Andrew Cuomo, make it Personal. We have the power to smack down this Communist bully: Please read the entire list....

Gun Control; Time to Fight

As consumers and 2nd Amendment advocates, we have to engage an economic boycott of all ammunition and firearms covering the entire State of NY; Citizens & Government while pulling an “Alinsky” Andrew Cuomo when executing the boycott. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules for Radicals)

The embargo ends when the current NY Government agrees all NY State Citizens have a 2nd Amendment Right to own any quantity and all types firearms, those made 400 years ago and those to be made in the future!

How

The firearms industry from top to bottom completely terminate sales of a firearms and ammunition to all of NY State, citizens to Government to include the Federal Government offices in NY State till the State of NY recognizes the US Constitution and its own State Constitution starting on 12 February 2013.

To the Citizens aka Serfs in NY State

You will suffer till you elect representatives that respect the Constitutions. You made your bed, now go lie down in it! If you are a gun owner in NY you are a Serf, and it sucks to be you. If you are a believer
in Gun Control, great! Now your Government will have no guns too! NY Government can continue to prosecute the criminals without guns or ammunition.

To all Government in NY State

You want gun control for your Citizens and Taxpayers? Well the rest of us out here think that concept is flawed. The rest of the Country think you, the Government should be just as restricted or more so restricted than the law abiding taxpayer…….how do you like not having “Assault Rifles”, High Capacity Magazines or no Ammunition now? If it sucks for you Mr & Mrs. Government Employee in NY State……well it sucks to a NY State Citizen under the current laws too!

Respect your citizens/ taxpayer and Constitutions.

To Industry: Time to break the bully’s’ face

Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren will be running on the 2016 Democrat Presidential ticket. With record sales in other markets, there will be zero impact if all NY sales terminated tomorrow. If the NY State Government along with the SAFE act are not reigned in, this cancer will only spread. Time to fight the bully and make the bully understand in no uncertain terms, the 2nd Amendment is very important, has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with citizens/sovereigns reigning in and eliminating out of control Government, foreign or Domestic.

To the Citizens of the “other 56” States

Call every manufacturer of ammunition and firearms and tell them to stand up to Andrew Cuomo and the NY State Government by completely boycotting all sales to NY State till the SAFE Act, Assault weapons ban and any other restrictions to firearms ownership are removed. Respect the 2nd Amendment or pay the consequences. Boycott NY State or we as consumers will boycott your company!

Federal Ammunition, Winchester/OLIN, FN USA, FN Herstal, Remington, Freedom Firearms Group, Colt, S&W, Glock, Lewis Machine Tool, Heckler & Koch, Sig-Sauer… etc.

Call the NRA and every other gun rights organization to support the industry boycott of NY State and make sure that Andrew Cuomo owns it!

Contact them all and tell them you support a NY State Firearms and Ammunition Boycott!

Andrew Cuomo

Mr. Cuomo owns this. Every Answer, every utterance about this initiative is his. This will end his chances for President in 2016.

When NY State Government Officials complain: ANSWER Call Andy…. When NYC Police Commissioner
Ray Kelly and NYC Mayor Bloomberg whines… ANSWER: Call ANDY! When the UN security teams in
NYC complain….. answer Andrew Cuomo…..When hunters in NY complain: ANSWER: Andrew Cuomo….. when non gun owners fear the “cops” will not be armed: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo. When any NY State Citizen comments, complains, or utters any thought about their safety: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo.

If it drags on and a NY Citizen or Police Officer is killed due to no training ammunition the answer is: Andrew Cuomo

When the news media runs a story explaining the criminals gangs think this boycott is great cuz the Po
Po ain’t gots noz bullets…. The answer is Andrew Cuomo

Andrew Cuomo is your fear, Andrew Cuomo is your pain, and Andrew Cuomo is your lack of security…..your lack of ammunition and firearms.. Governor Cuomo can heal that pain….

When Mr. Cuomo buckles: the left will hate him. The Left will punish him

NO negotiations, NO middle of the road,
Nothing but recognition of the Individual Taxpayers Rights to Firearms Ownership

When NY State Government recognizes the Rights of the Citizens, then and only then will sales resume

MAKE EVERY Gun Grabbing Democrat or Republican politician fear being “Coumo’d” by Taxpayers that believe in the Second Amendment.

The Common Sense Solution is already in place: Current NY State Constitution ARTICLE XII*
DEFENSE
[Defense; militia]
Section 1. The defense and protection of the state and of the United
States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature
shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized.

For clarity and intent here is the original language from 1777

XL. And whereas it is of the utmost importance to the safety of every State that it should always be in a condition of defence; and it is the duty of every man who enjoys the protection of society to be prepared and willing to defend it; this convention therefore, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, doth ordain, determine, and declare that the militia of this State, at all times hereafter, as well in peace as in war, shall be armed and disciplined, and in readiness for service.

(just a small observation: As read, the citizens of NY State should be fully armed “the duty of every man” , not the NY State Government or any Employee that takes a pay check from TAX REVENUE. Right now, it is completely backwards! NY State should be more like Switzerland of 2012 and less like Nazi Germany of 1938.)

And

US Constitution 2nd Amendment, which by the way is now in been affirmed as incorporated and defined to protect the individual’s right to own firearms, via the Heller decision

If a citizen and Militia member in NY cannot own it, can neither a NY State Government Agency nor
Employee. That is common sense and that is the current Constitution!

Make Mr. Cuomo recognize that fact. See the rules below and start making Andy Cuomo’s political life painful or we will be dealing with him and his venal ilk in 2016!

Addendum:

The rules

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

How: NY State Boycott of all arms and ammunition, starting with NY State Government, local
Government and all NY State Citizens/Taxpayers/Serfs

RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

We all know firearms and the Second Amendment. Time to say NO to the Bullies in NY State!

RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

NY State Government will be clueless on how to handle a boycott by Industry initiated by Taxpayers from the other “56” States.

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

No Rights to own Firearms for Citizens = No Rights, exemptions, or any other weasel language to possess
Firearms or ammunition for Government Employees anywhere in NY

If a NY State Citizen cannot buy the firearms/magazines/ammunition…. Nor can a Government Entity or
Government Employee in NY State

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It is irrational. It is infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Call Andrew Cuomo, he owns: your lack of Rights, your lack of security, or lack of ammunition or lack of firearms

RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more.
They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

For those of us outside of NY State: More product available and we end this gun control issue for a while

For those in NY State: Think of this as Chemo-therapy for gun control cancer; the process is not very enjoyable, but the results of killing off the gun control cancer are worth it.

Enjoy watching the NY State bureaucrats squirm and fuss

Enjoy watching the anti- gun types freak when the Government is not armed either! Que Mike Bloomberg, NY Police Union types and the UN idiots “guns for our security now! While leaving the taxpayers un-armed”

ENJOY ANDREW COUMO GET POUNDED ON ALL SIDES and watch his 2016 chances go away!

RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.

Start this MONTH, it won’t last long!

Abe Lincoln took on slavery, so let us free taxpayers that enjoy firearms and the 2nd Amendment from being treated like Dred Scott honor Mr. Lincoln and start the BOYCOTT on 12 February 2013!

Call or e-mail every manufacturer of firearms and ammunition and demand they BOYCOTT all sales to NY STATE! Call and/or e-mail the NRA, NSSF, and SAMMI and demand they support a BOYCOTT of all firearms and ammunition to NY State to begin on February 12, 2013 starting with the NY State Government due to ANDREW Cuomo!

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

The Boycott Ends when LAWS are repealed, not amended, not replaced…REPEALED and Law Abiding
Citizens & Taxpayers RIGHTS are recognized

RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

NOT A THREAT. DEMAND a total BOYCOTT and make sure Andrew Cuomo owns it!

RULE 10: “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.

The enraged Parties such as the NY State Police, Local Police, Government Employee Unions and finally
Citizens/Serf will be plenty of pressure on Mr. Cuomo.

RULE 11: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

Common Sense will prevail

RULE 12: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

No Compromise: The answers & solutions are already in place, the NY State Constitution and the US Constitution

RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

ANDREW COUMO


9 posted on 02/13/2013 10:12:07 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: tpmintx
The man described himself as a SKEET shooter. That's something completely different.

best to describe him as a bull shooter!

10 posted on 02/13/2013 10:14:30 AM PST by llevrok (Unlike Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: tobyhill

We knew this was the goal fifty years ago when Thomas J Dodd and Emanuel Cellar proposed their first handgun “registration”.

If the antis get a law passed banning certain firearms, you can bet that before the ink is dry they will be back with a new set of demands for more, and more, till there is no more.

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

NOW they have added certain rifles and shotguns to their “to be banned list”.


11 posted on 02/13/2013 10:15:47 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: tobyhill

Some have said that there has never been any confiscation of guns in the US, but I remember differently.

In Ohio, I believe, many years ago, a city passed a law forbidding the sale of “Saturday night specials”.

An injunction was placed against the city and the guns continued to be sold AND REGISTERED.

The courts sided with the city and upheld the law, the the city sent out notices to those who had bought guns, after the first ban date, to TURN THEM IN.


12 posted on 02/13/2013 10:23:55 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: tobyhill

If the gun grabbers lose a couple of people at every house they try to plunder, they will soon tire of it.


13 posted on 02/13/2013 10:24:44 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: tobyhill

mandatory buyback is outright communism.

at that point there is no mandatory that can be resisted.

mandatory car buyback

mandatory computer buyback

mandatory stock buyback

IOW no private property allowed.


14 posted on 02/13/2013 10:26:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rarestia
I read some of those, you know that's fake content and/or selective posting. When the comment contains “as a hunter” or “and we own a lot of guns” oh and “clips for assault rifles”, I can see the article writers and CNN blog staff making them up.
15 posted on 02/13/2013 10:28:24 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: TexasRepublic

They do not lose the STAFFERS.

The gun grabber staffers remain year after year.

The career leftists of the DOJ stay year after year.

The career leftists of the DOJ become the Federal judges since no private attorneys are accepted any more. (see sotomayor who is utterly unqualified)

Staffers need to go with their bosses.


16 posted on 02/13/2013 10:30:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NativeSon

Absolutely! That’s what bothers me the most. The uninitiated moron out there still watching CNN is going to believe this lie that NRA members and hunters are supporting this BS.

They’re using Alinsky tactics to force the “truth” that is a lie down the throats of the public to push the narrative in their favor.


17 posted on 02/13/2013 10:34:18 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: tobyhill

No it won’t, and no they can’t, that is unless they want a full blown revolution on their hands. Like I said before, the leftists are scared shitless of the sheer amount of firepower possessed by law abiding Americans, and that firepower is guaranteed by the second amendment of the US Constitution exactly to foment the despotic aspirations of a tyrannical government, exactly like the one that is presenting itself to us right now. The leftists hammer away at our freedoms and liberty, slowly chipping away our Constitutional rights, and with it the very foundations of our country. The big question is, what are we going to do about it? Will it be fight, flight, or capitulation?


18 posted on 02/13/2013 10:39:25 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: tobyhill
maybe the NRA should have stopped supporting blood and freedom sucking democrats decades ago....

husband is a nra lifer but he/we will not send the NRA another dime...not since learning they supported that chump from PA who insulted Marines and some of the other garbage they supported...

19 posted on 02/13/2013 10:55:04 AM PST by cherry
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To: tobyhill
maybe the NRA should have stopped supporting blood and freedom sucking democrats decades ago....

husband is a nra lifer but he/we will not send the NRA another dime...not since learning they supported that chump from PA who insulted Marines and some of the other garbage they supported...

20 posted on 02/13/2013 10:55:46 AM PST by cherry
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