In one way I'm hoping it's not true because Belusconi would be an improvement in the White House over Obama and also eligible since Obama set the precedence.
Posted on 02/11/2013 12:28:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Just hours after Pope Benedict XVI‘s surprising Feb. 28 resignation, bookmakers have already started placing odds on his successor.
Quickest off the mark was the Irish bookmaker Paddy Power, which has already gone through three favorites for the position, starting off with Nigerian Francis Arinze, before shifting to Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson and then to Canadian Marc Ouellet — who at the time of this writing is the most favored option, with odds of 11 to 4. A rival bookie, Ladbrokes, currently has Turkson as the slight favorite at 3 to 1, followed by Arinze (7 to 2) and then Ouellet (4 to 1)
The 80-year-old Arinze is an Igbo Nigerian who spent 25 years in the Vatican and was once the world’s youngest bishop. The 64-year-old Turkson was appointed by the current Pope four years ago to become president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace — although he did spark controversy last year over a YouTube clip he screened at an international meeting of bishops on the rise of Islam in Europe. Ouellet is the Vatican’s main staff director, but unless he’s a master at political dissembling, the 68-year-old doesn’t seem to be actively pursuing the job. He has been quoted as saying that being Pontiff “would be a nightmare,” and told Quebec City’s Le Soleil newspaper that a pope’s duties “are perhaps not very enviable,” with the responsibilities “crushing.”
Media Relations Manager for Paddy Power, Feilim Mac An Iomaire, told TIME that the bookmaker had been prepared for Monday’s bombshell. “We’ve actually had betting on the next Pope for eight years, since Benedict was named,” he explains. “But now, the money has been absolutely flying in. We’re comfortably into five figures and that does have a massive effect on the odds.”
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Booyah!
College, not Academy or something like that.
RE: Does Cardinal Dolan Speak Italian?
He speaks Italian but isn’t COMFORTABLE with it ( which is to say, he isn’t as fluent as he’d like to be ).
See here (NEW YORK POST):
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/get_grappa_on_yourself_5aQ29E6bo6uPQ1V6SyA06H
EXCERPT:
Although Dolan lived in Italy for seven years during the 1990s, when he was rector of the Pontifical North American College, the down-to-earth holy man admitted that the Italian he’s comfortable speaking isn’t appropriate for official Vatican functions.
Archbishop Timothy Dolan joked he may need a shot of the Italian liqueur grappa before addressing the pope in Italian.
“Some of the street language I learned there would be inappropriate,” he joked during a brief meeting with reporters at the archdiocese’s Midtown headquarters.
But Dolan said he does know all the important Italian phrases — especially when it comes to ordering a meal.
“Per favore, c’e ancora pasta?” Dolan said before translating the phrase into English for reporters: “Is there more pasta, please?”
Dolan said he’s currently working on the speech he will deliver to the pope and cardinals on the topic of new evangelization — a subject high on Pope Benedict XVI’s priority list — in an effort to ensure that people living in European countries steeped in Catholic tradition remain faithful.
>>>> Show me where Ratzinger was the odds-on favorite in 2005? Some momentum was just beginning to turn toward him but he was by no means the clear favorite going in. <<
I don’t know what the heck you’re talking about. I CLEARLY remember that conclave and Cardinal Ratzinger’s name was mentioned in the news and floated about 10 times more than any other Cardinal. He was JPII’s right hand man and considered a “natural successor” since JPII left such a huge legacy, they wanted someone who would be able to pick up naturally and carry on the same policies.
Anyone else had long odds. The only slim doubt of Ratzinger not becoming Pope had to with a few people speculating that the Cardinals would be reluctant to elect a second non-Italian in a row because there were so many Italian Cardinals that figured the papacy was traditionally theirs, and because of what you’re saying now that “he who enters Pope, emerges Cardinal” argument said Ratzinger’s “inevitable” odds would cause a backlash once the conclave started.
Try some of these articles for starters:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/18/pope.betting/index.html
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/17/210036.shtml
http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-131459196/ratzinger-seen-as-favorite-to-become-next-pope
"Is there still any pasta?" would be a better translation. No, Cardinal Dolan was born to be Archbishop of New York. Leave him there.
He was very popular when he was in the Milwaukeee area. He worked very hard to help the church heal from the sex abuse scandles.
Pick me! Pick me!
My bet the new pope will be from South America—Brazil or Argentina.
It will be Obama.
He only got a peace prize so far.
He needs this.
I always found it amusing that a follower can basically do anything he or she wants, go to see some special somebody, spout out their particular transgressions to somebody they can hear but not see, be told to recite a bunch of meaningless words and thereby be absolved.
Pure silliness. I used to stake out and stalk the Catholic chicks in high school and college, because they just knew that whatever they did, some other human could make the consequences go away.
Your sources are all late and reflect the last minute momentum I referred to. It built after John Paul II’s funeral. One of them is from the very day the conclave opened. For months the speculation had been about Tettamanzi and the Argentinian Jesuit and so forth. The movement toward Ratzinger came suddenly, esp. after his homily at the funeral.
I remember clearly that up to that point, Ratzinger was one of the people that everyone thought could not possibly be elected. Then it began to shift. I remember because I had long wanted him as pope but had, reading the Catholic press carefully, concluded it was impossible. I noticed the shift in momentum in the last few days. Funny how it now seems to have been a foregone conclusion for months.
But since you clearly remember, well, just be happy with your clear memories. I have mine, from following the issue for the last year or two of John Paul’s life in some detail.
What about Pope Lexis the Ist.
Wide trac Pontiac II.
Pope Tesla Electri?
Likewise, since the next pope will probably continue the practice of "tweeting," he won't take the name Sylvester (that name has been used--Sylvester I supposedly cured the Emperor Constantine of leprosy, the rationale for the fictitious "Donation of Constantine")...would lend itself to too many jokes about Tweety and Sylvester.
The early popes kept their original names--a lot of the early ones have Greek names. There don't seem to be any papal names of Germanic origin (Robert, Albert, Edward, Frederick, etc.). There was a short-lived Pope Conon--maybe a Pope Conon II would be just the one to take on the barbarians of today.
There were two popes named Paschal (the first elected in 817, the second in 1099)--that might be an appropriate name if the election takes place near Easter.
Stephen, Nicholas, and Adrian are some other names which haven't been used in a long time.
After a string of popes named "Pius" (7 out of 11 in one stretch), the most recent popes have shown more variety with the exception of JPII taking the name of the pope who died after only a month in office.
Reminds me of the Carlin routine about “Father Rivera” whom everyone wanted to confess to because he didn’t understand English too well.
In October 2011 Cardinal Turkson called for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises. The document, Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority was very specific, calling for taxation measures on financial transactions. It notes that “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said. The document condemned what it called “the idolatry of the market” as well as a “neo-liberal thinking” that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems. “In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale,” it said, adding that world economics needed an “ethic of solidarity” among rich and poor nations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turkson#Reform_of_the_international_financial_system
In one way I'm hoping it's not true because Belusconi would be an improvement in the White House over Obama and also eligible since Obama set the precedence.
Good point about Pope Pascal. He left a beautiful Chapel at Santa Praessede in Rome. I’d be glad to see a pope Nicholas too.
Wasn’t there some prophesy that there’d only be one or two more Popes at this point?
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