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Some teachers at odds with CSCOPE (Texas, very scary stuff)
Times Record News (Wichita Falls, TX) ^ | Dec. 16th, 2012 | Ann Work

Posted on 02/10/2013 7:43:33 PM PST by BobL

Stan Hartzler has been a math teacher for a long time. The 40-year teacher has written textbooks, taught college math, and given hundreds of presentations on how to teach his subject.

So when he was hired in August 2012 to launch a robust attack on Luling Independent School District's failing math scores, he brought a solid understanding of what his students needed.

But Hartzler would soon become a casualty in a growing state controversy when, shortly after his hire, his superintendent adopted a new teaching system called CSCOPE. It organized each day's classroom topics — minute to minute — and provided scripted talking points and lessons.

He required Hartzler to use it exclusively, despite Hartzler's protests.

Hartzler tried.

He used every quadratic equation, every calculator exercise, and all the algebra tile work.

But it felt like a concoction of leftovers that would seriously harm students — particularly the disadvantaged ones — because it left out so much.

"The course in algebra is not there," he said. "I regard this as being fraudulent."

(Excerpt) Read more at timesrecordnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cscope; education; indoctrination; publicschools; schools; secretcurriculum; texas; texaseducation; texasschools
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To: yldstrk

You got it.


41 posted on 02/10/2013 11:20:31 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: CitizenUSA; metmom

My ninth graders used to mke fun that I didn’t know world war craft or so, so proud of their knowledge of how to use computers etc.

I’d say, charitably and with some humor and a litlle respect, ah, I knes guys, like my dad and his military academy peers who invented computers and devised the ways to get them into households and they were learning this stuff I’m trying to teach you while they were in high school. Knowing how to use it, bah, try inventing it.

Get back to work!

They’d bury thier heads and come back dishing the dirt on Cassius and Huck Finn.

These kids, they might not like it, who does, but they are hungry for the truth and they know itwhen they see it. THey love a challenge. They love the competition.

They know they need it.

They love survival skills weaons fire cooking all tat stuff.

I do not like to underestimate them.


42 posted on 02/10/2013 11:59:52 PM PST by stanne
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To: BobL
We home schooled our daughter for 11 of 12 years. We already have one of the finest systems of learning right now. It's called ABEKA and Saxon math. Just copy that and teach them discipline with it and they will be ready for college at 16.

Stop trying to change what we already know works.

43 posted on 02/11/2013 12:58:31 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

“We home schooled our daughter for 11 of 12 years. We already have one of the finest systems of learning right now. It’s called ABEKA and Saxon math. Just copy that and teach them discipline with it and they will be ready for college at 16.”

You need to put a /sarc at the end of your post. I KNOW that Saxon Math uses textbooks, and I believe the same is true with ABEKA. So you lie. There is no way they can learn. Textbooks are a dinosaur, at least according to one person on this site.

...so, just how far behind is she, really.

LOL (and nice work...Saxon kicks butt).


44 posted on 02/11/2013 4:11:47 AM PST by BobL
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To: Pikachu_Dad
The overpriced, overweight textbook system is a dinosaur that needs to die.

You're absolutely right, but that's not what this article is about.

45 posted on 02/11/2013 4:29:07 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: hosepipe
America is being Punished... the worst is yet to come..
The sad part is....... America deserves it..
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

God isn't going to intervene when Americans willingly choose ( themselves) to take on the onerous yoke of slavery. Why?

—Abortion: Christians by the millions can show up to buy a chicken sandwich but can't figure out how to legally and peacefully put an end to abortion. Really?

—Godless and socialist-entitlement K-12 schooling: The Boy Scouts are flooded with phone and e-mail messages objecting to homosexuals in the Scouts, but those **SAME** parents then willing send their children into GODLESS schools in which there are **daily** reports of homosexual and heterosexual predation on children. And....Where the Barna Foundation reports that fewer than 15% of children from **active** Christian homes will retain their faith 2 years after graduating from high school.

I doubt God is happy that we murder children in the womb.

I doubt God is happy that, if these children survive the womb, are then sent into GODLESS K-12 indoctrination centers where they are taught perversion and risk having their souls murdered and are preyed upon by the wicked.

46 posted on 02/11/2013 5:30:57 AM PST by wintertime
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To: BobL; chuckles
LOL (and nice work...Saxon kicks butt).

Saxon is the BEST math curriculum EVER.

My husband works with some engineers who are familiar with Saxon and they said that there is no better curriculum for preparing a kid for real world, hands on use of math.

47 posted on 02/11/2013 6:09:18 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: BobL
I think it might be even worse than what's covered here. Some parents were told it was ILLEGAL to tell them what was in the lessons. It seems to me that the liberal educators realize that Texas is a conservative state, so they are moving as quickly as possible to indoctrinate the students into the liberal cult. Who knows what it will be like in a decade when they start to vote en-mass.
48 posted on 02/11/2013 6:11:40 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: hosepipe
"God did not do it.."

But every day we are told that God did it . . . and those awful Conservatives.

49 posted on 02/11/2013 8:44:05 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: Mortrey

“I fear what this generation would do if their electricity went out, and they didn’t have their Kindle, or their games, or their Facebook.”

In a short term electronics/electricity loss, the Lil’ Darlins’ will ape their parents behavior. Note the remarkable rise in deliveries some nine months after thr big New York Sh*ty blackout.

Long term, think “Lord of the Flies”.

IMHO, Texans will handle such situations far better than Libtard states.


50 posted on 02/11/2013 9:13:57 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: stanne
Nicely stated.

But how many students stand face to face with a teacher like you?

Very few.

The brainwashed, misguided, corruptible teacher is now the norm.

Aided and abetted with a curriculum that languishes in mediocrity and self serving ideology.

Kids do "love a challenge and competition."

That's why they sleep in the classroom and take solace in their computer games.

51 posted on 02/11/2013 9:17:10 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: norwaypinesavage

“I think it might be even worse than what’s covered here. Some parents were told it was ILLEGAL to tell them what was in the lessons.”

I heard that too. What totally freaks me out is the way they got 80% of TEXAS SCHOOLS to buy-in.

I’ve spent all of my adult life saying that EVERYONE in public schools is the same and that they are basically evil. I’ve lost many friends...but I guess that I was right after all. Nothing short of PURE EVIL can explain CSCOPE’s methods.


52 posted on 02/11/2013 4:43:52 PM PST by BobL
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