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Dorner had history of complaints against fellow LAPD officers
Los ngeles Times ^ | February 9, 2013 | LAT

Posted on 02/09/2013 6:36:16 AM PST by Brandonmark

The fugitive ex-policeman Christopher Dorner, suspected of killing three people and injuring two, had a history of making complaints against fellow officers within the Los Angeles Police Department, and one officer said he had a reputation as a "hot head," according to internal affairs records.

Dorner was accused of punching a recruit in the chest while he was in the Police Academy in 2006. That recruit, Abraham Schefres, was wearing a bulletproof vest and a trauma plate, when Dorner allegedly punched him. After being hit, he glared at Dorner, whom Schefres said responded as though he had made a mistake, records show. Schefres said he believed that Dorner had not been trying to hurt him but that the punch was "more of a 'hello'" and to appear tough.

Schefres told an investigator that he "believed this was part of Dorner’s persona," records show. Schefres described Dorner as "a hot head" who would walk up to fellow recruits and "get in their faces in an aggressive" but joking way.

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To: Dick Vomer

“You know what I’d like to see and hear? The officer that kicked the civilian that got this whole thing going.”

As well as the guy who was supposedly kicked while handcuffed and his father.

Freegards


21 posted on 02/09/2013 7:31:17 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: PAR35
Given what has happened thus far, perhaps his complaints were justified.

Yes. I suspect that, while his actions are wrong, the LAPD brought it on themselves.

22 posted on 02/09/2013 7:31:55 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Brandonmark

It seems to me that he was brainwashed by MSNBC.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 7:38:48 AM PST by chopperman
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To: Brandonmark
A martyr like Dorner is the logical result when you have a system run by conservative white men. /sarc
24 posted on 02/09/2013 7:39:46 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Brandonmark

LA Times

How about some facts about the paper women who got shot up?? Good thing there wasn’t some civilian gun nuts around firing at will, instead we have well-trained police officers! Obviously they are better decision makers when it comes to handling firearms.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 7:41:15 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yeah, Dorner loves Obama, according to Dorner’s Facebook page — now offline. Amazing it’s not widely reported!


26 posted on 02/09/2013 7:41:15 AM PST by qwertyz
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To: Brandonmark

An aggressive yet joking way? What the heck is that?


27 posted on 02/09/2013 7:49:11 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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Court documents show an ex-girlfriend of Christopher Dorner called him “severely emotionally and mentally disturbed” after the two split.

In the posting, Ariana Williams calls Dorner “twisted” and “super paranoid” and warns other women on the website called Dontdatehimgirl.com , not to date him.

Christopher Dorner unsuccessfully requested a restraining order in 2006 after he claimed she posted his badge number on a website called Dontdatehimgirl.com and harassed him. He was denied.

In April 2007, Dorner married a Los Angeles deputy sheriff. The certificate was issued in Clark County, Nevada. But after 19 days, they submitted a joint petition for dissolution.

A year later, Dorner became involved with a fellow LAPD officer, according to a protective order application he filed in 2012.

Dorner alleged that after he broke off the relationship, he learned the woman attempted to access his credit union account online. The issue came up again in the online manifesto Dorner published on his Facebook page, airing his grievances against LAPD.

“You allow an officer to attempt to hack into my credit union account and remain on the job,” Dorner wrote in the 11,000-word document.

In seeking the protective order, Dorner stated he was “in fear for my life” because she boasted of her ability to kill, and told him she has “nothing to lose.”

It was a phrase that Dorner later used to describe himself – “I have nothing to lose” – in the manifesto as he laid out his mission to apparently seek revenge over the department. He was fired from the LAPD in 2008, after reporting another officer for alleged brutality – an accusation that investigators later said was false.

With the manhunt for Dorner still unresolved, none of the women could be reached for comment.


28 posted on 02/09/2013 7:52:15 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: NoGrayZone
"I’m sure once he is shot dead, they WILL make a movie about it"

And when Dorner's story is made into a movie, how much you want to bet the scriptwriters turn him into an angry white cop?

29 posted on 02/09/2013 7:56:42 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Taking away guns will do nothing to stop violence.)
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To: Bon mots
Now the cops are showing us all how wrong he was and how professional they are.

yep. I'll bet the lesbian cop is on paid admin leave.

30 posted on 02/09/2013 8:01:49 AM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
No, I think they will keep him black....and really exploit the racism he faced.

Of course, they will leave out the following...

"Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target."

"Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2’s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly."

"Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I’m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target."

"Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target."

"Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, ” I……don’t like conflict”. You are a high value target as well."

"Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore."

"It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth."

"You allow an officer, XXXXXX, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. XXXXX shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge’s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. XXXX provided the evidence and you still do nothing."

I'd be pretty pissed too.

31 posted on 02/09/2013 8:16:23 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I read the manifesto and anyone in their thirties who obsesses publicly about a fight they had with someone in first grade is a straight-out kook.


32 posted on 02/09/2013 8:28:21 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender
A manifesto, to me, will indicate an injustice perceived, even from a young age. He was telling his story as to why it has come to this point.

This man is not a kook. He has already exposed the LAPD for the unprofessional law enforcement they really are.

Shooting at 2 women delivering newspapers with how many rounds? All those shots and those 2 ladies are still alive?

No, not a kook. I think he is doing all this to show the world who the LAPD really is.....and is doing one heck of a job.

And his manifesto was not rambling, it was quite coherent.

33 posted on 02/09/2013 8:37:44 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: A_perfect_lady; PAR35

I concur with the both of you. This man is not a kook, as some state he is.

Perhaps he is just, well, see my tagline.

Seemed he tried to fight while still employed w/ the PD...and lost terribly. Looks like they stripped him of his good name, just from all the info I have read thus far.

The fact he complained when his partner abused a mentally ill “perp”, after he was in cuffs. He knew that was wrong and tried to rectify it.

He got screwed instead.


34 posted on 02/09/2013 8:46:54 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
The other cops are proving him right by showing how 'professional' they are.

So far, three innocent people in two different pickup trucks have been shot up.
Neither pickup matched the description of the perp's.


35 posted on 02/09/2013 8:51:20 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Mouton

I’m thinking something along those lines, too, like Paranoid Personality Disorder. And I also wonder if he saw “Django Unchained.”


36 posted on 02/09/2013 8:56:02 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: NoGrayZone

The more things change, the more people stay the same.

I don’t know of anybody who hasn’t experienced unrighteousness nor injustice.

How we respond to such adversity discerns the virtuous from the corrupt.

IMHO, the perspective presented in the manifesto indicates the author lacks virtue.

We don’t know if was only from a fired cop named Dorner or if the entire episode isn’t a communistic/socialist attempt to mold public perception.

Let’s accept it as his actions. If so, he was properly fired, because it isn’t his jurisdiction to act as victim, prosecutor, jury, judge, and executioner.

His manifesto is grossly unjust. In it he concludes he should have killed one of his peers for making racial remarks and not acquiescing to his will when challenged. That’s a simple violation of the 1st Amendment. Again, he had no business as a cop with that type of thinking.


37 posted on 02/09/2013 8:58:05 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: NoGrayZone

If you want an interesting exercise, check the parts of the manifesto that were allegorical with a free grade level writing analyzer and then check the parts about the gun control rant in the same manifesto.

While the whole document is at around a 10th grade level. The parts mentioning the AR15 are written at a 6th grade level (the level at which politicians are told to write their speeches in order to appeal to the masses) and in a very different structure.

Kind of interesting...if I had a tinfoil hat, I might think they were written by different people.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 9:02:34 AM PST by willyd
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To: Bon mots

Exactly, and perhaps that is part of his plan.

And just how sucky are these “professionals”, with ALL those shots fired, and the ones they fired at are still alive?

Seems the only ones they can kill are the innocent family pets.


39 posted on 02/09/2013 9:03:43 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
“I have read this mans “manifesto”. He did not sound crazy, but revengeful.”

Thanks, NoGrayZone, I explained this over and over on here and got stomped by most who just wanted him to be a goof ball who was crazy. I, like you, had read the whole manifesto. He planned so well in detail that he has his thinking together.

Every person he has killed or wounded has been related to his reason for revenge. And, he hasn't been caught - he's not crazy, he is smart and crafty and knows police procedure and weapons and I would bet he has a police radio to hear them. I say that because the cop he killed and the one with him wounded, were on their way to the house of one on the death list to guard that family. Dorner took out the two guards before they got to the house of the one on the kill list. He had to have known that is where those two cops were going as he approached them, not them approaching him. He appeared out of nowhere at that corner and shot them before they knew what was happening. Dorner is not crazy - he is thinking rationally with every move to accomplish his purpose, which to him is rational.

40 posted on 02/09/2013 9:07:10 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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