by the way, does anyone know how much money a drone typically costs? millions?
Posted on 02/05/2013 2:45:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.
The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices: its dramatically increased use of drone strikes against al-Qaida suspects, including those aimed at American citizens, such as the September 2011 strike in Yemen that killed alleged al-Qaida operatives Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan. Both were U.S. citizens who had never been indicted by the U.S. government nor charged with any crimes.
The secrecy surrounding such strikes is fast emerging as a central issue in this week’s hearing of White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, a key architect of the drone campaign, to be CIA director.
(Excerpt) Read more at openchannel.nbcnews.com ...
I don’t know if Americans working with foreign enemies on foreign soil and who are supporting violence against America or American interests deserve due process but I’m no constitutional scholar.
I would think an America who leaves the country and JOINS THE ENEMY BECOMES ... THE ENEMY!
and can be shot and killed like any of them.
I mean its not like there was any question about it- he made videos for cripe’s sake!
Those who were eager for police to accumulate drones may one day rue that desire.
we bend over and ass kiss the Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hassan, and almost toss out his case because he can’t grow a beard during the trial.
Meanwhile we just pick them off like flies in foreign theaters. Why don’t we just try Hassan in Afghanistan?
Play dodge the drone.
by the way, does anyone know how much money a drone typically costs? millions?
Obama has set the precedent. The next Jane Fonda can expect to be blown to smithereens. LOL
Sorry folks... But Americans that join Al Queda need to be killed just like any other terrorist scumbag. It’s a war paradigm, not a law enforcement paradigm. I’m suspicious of Obama’s motives just like everybody else... And I’ve got my own end-game stockpiles... But this doesn’t scare me. It’s a confirmation of— indeed a vindication of Bush policy on the very same matter. We don’t need be going into foreign lands to pull American Muslim slime out for prosecution. We need to just exterminate them alongside their vermin buddies. They joined the enemy. This is a capability that any President will need for many years to come. Unfortunately that also includes the doofus currently in office.
This isn’t about launching drone strikes inside the U.S. against the Tea Party. If he was really going to do that he wouldn’t need to bother making it legal. The time for that will have been long gone.
” or “an associated force” — even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S. “
All they need to do is to claim a local Tea Party chapter had links to Al Qaeda.
Boom.
Dead conservatives.
Dead Freepers.
Oh nonsense. This dopey thread is reading like the DUmmie FUnnies.
Yup, and many here were cheering Bush on at the time. A few of us were warning of the danger of surrendering liberty for so called safety. So how is that Patriot Act working out for you now?
I notice Hussein hasn’t been jet setting around the world much lately since the Benghazi drive by
next phase will be satellite linked lethal injection collars for all citizens
You are thinking about this in too narrow a manner. This decision brings the possibility of the war paradigm into the law enforcement paradigm. I don’t know if the administration would actually conduct a drone strike against a “domestic terrorist” inside the country, but this scenario is much more likely now.
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I notice Hussein hasn’t been jet setting around the world much lately since the Benghazi drive by>>>>>>>>>>>
Thats right! Having royally effed the Magreb into a tremendpus mess with Islamofascists running around with Gadaffis arsenal in hand ( Gaddaffi should never have been attacked by Obama and NATO, now the terror of Islam descends into the heart of Africa), Obama is now a bit dodgey when it comes to travel to the ME. I think its a good time for a tour over there. He can have the same security that Ambassador Stevens had. The Mossad should be able to arrange for the mujahadeen to prepare a suitable greeting for the Won.
Bump!
I don't know about that; there is real danger in letting the government define everything. Terrorists in this particular case, but consider even 'mental illness' -- the "mental illness" reason was used to remove people who did not agree with the party in Communist Russia -- why is it so far off to think that allowing the definition of 'terrorist' to be government-defined will not fall into the same abuse?
Note, also, how the government is claiming that there is not right to "due judicial process" -- that they can just have some process and call that "due process" that satisfies the 5th Amendment. However, the 6th Amendment is clear that in ALL criminal* prosecutions the defendant has the right to a Jury trial. So, by doing this the government apparently hopes to void the 6th and 5th Amendments.
* -- Is a terrorist a criminal? The congress introduced laws defining things like 'terrorist acts' and in so doing made the 6th apply to them, regardless of whether or not it would have beforehand.
That goes both ways. Eff them!
If you go over and work with the enemy don’t you automatically lose your American citizenship?
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