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1 posted on 02/03/2013 10:29:28 AM PST by Bratch
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On one side, we have Democrats and Republicans.

On the other side, opposing their goals of socialism, communism, disarmament and domestic tyranny, are American citizens and the Tea Party.

We've known this since about 2000, or before, but I am delighted that they have announced it publicly.

25 posted on 02/03/2013 10:57:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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OMG people....the GOP is NOT conservative. Never has been. Goldwater was an anomaly and so was Reagan. The Gingrich revolution of 94 was just backlash against Clinton moving “too fast” in his socialization of America.

The Bushes are globalists. All of the leaders in the GOP are globalists. Globalist is another name for world socialist. They believe in a world without borders where all workers are just labor units to be used and discarded at will—essentially a world of temp laborers with an oligarchy that rules them all. Calling them the GOPe and RINOs is incorrect. They are the GOP and the Republicans. We are the outsiders to their party. We’re their plantation voters, just as the blacks are to the Democrats.

Our version of conservatism requires a nation with borders that recognizes that each of us are sovereign individuals with inalienable God-given rights. The GOP does not believe that.

Rove, like the rest of them at the top of both parties, believes in a free market for his class and a “managed economy” for the little people. The only difference between the GOP and the Democrats is in the method of conversion to collectivism. Rove wants us to be sold into indentured servitude to multi-nationals as an expendable resource, with the unemployables becoming wards of the state. Obama wants all of us to become property of the state to be rented out to the corps.


27 posted on 02/03/2013 11:00:26 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Not spending beyond our means and advocating for a smaller and more efficient government is the summit of Tea Party rationality. Rove and his fellow RINOs are 180 degrees out of sync with conservatives.
29 posted on 02/03/2013 11:02:12 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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Obama Sends Valentine To Rove:

I You


32 posted on 02/03/2013 11:04:05 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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Rove and company ensuring that Republicans lose again. Money helps you get ahead in an election, but you still need votes to win an election. Going to war with the very people whose votes you need is not going to get you very far, even with a ton of money. Rove has lost a lot of credibility, and I hope his big donors realize that their dollars are not going to vote in the voting booth. Pissing off people whose votes you need is a poor strategy, and a great way to burn your money for nothing.


36 posted on 02/03/2013 11:12:49 AM PST by Moorings
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I’ve said for a long time on this forum that the Moderates often called GOPe nowadays, identifiable by the likes of Karl Rove, etc. are hijacking the Conservative name. Their goal is to leave true conservatives without a public identity. They have been on the path towards scrubbing the Conservative movement for many years RIGHT ALONG WITH THE DEMOCRATS.

The Democrats are trying to cause Conservatives to form a third party to break up the opposition vote, as well relegate Conservatism, TRUE Conservatism to third party HELL. Oblivion. It’s what they are attempting to do to we the people.

We the people right now need to make up our minds as to what to do with the GOPe, drop kick their butts out of the picture, and I believe the way to do it is to get as many of the elected RINO’s the “H” out of office, and the TEA Party in. Two birds one stone (election).

WE HAVE TO GET BEHIND THE TEA PARTY IF WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS COUNTRY BACK. Let NOT they detract us from that focus.


37 posted on 02/03/2013 11:13:51 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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“Conservative Victory Project.”

“Conspiracy of Venal (or Vile) People.”

“Cabal of Venomous Profiteers.”


40 posted on 02/03/2013 11:18:06 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Need another reason to abandon the Whigs on their headlong plunge into obscurity? There is no recapturing the party from within; it is too far gone.


41 posted on 02/03/2013 11:19:22 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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What we are seeing in America now is what happens when a minority attempts to take over a majority. On two scales, no less -- on a national scale with the presidency, and an inner-party scale in the GOP. Minorities hijaking majorities.

Time for a third party. Sorry, sad, but true. On the bright side, timing is ripe among average Americans for an alternative to equally loathed Democrat and Republican parties in the general perception.

There must be some fights, however, some battles, which the squeamish roll-over Republicans have already surrendered, among the most primary: Elections must become honest, ID required, monitored for fraud. That's where it must start. The battles will start there, must start there, and will take the most courage.

I do trust, as so many of the Hudson Brigade (despairing and defeatist "conservatives" who come here wailing "Game over, man! Game over!") do not, that on balance, the majority of Americans are morally good. These are the Americans who make this country work. Their votes are the most authentic -- the producers, the regular joes, the legitimate and legal citizens, the ones who feed themselves outside of food stamps and government largess (yes, folks on "welfare" should, in the cause of justice, be denied the vote, and there should be a law stating it, as it's a case of the wolf voting in more sheep when wholesale gov't dependents have equal franchise ... this is a hard, uphill battle the Hudson Brigaders are too panicked and defeatist to fight) ...

... read the words of those elsehwere than FR and perceive the dangerous illusion that pop culture and the MSM have projected of themselves in place of "Americans." Get a grip on the truth that patiently incremental decades-long organized vote fraud on the left, vote manipulation, and deliberate vote ginning among people who'd never bother voting otherwise, have placed a liberal minority in position to exercise government tyranny over the majority. America didn't "vote for this" -- "this" cheated to get where it is. For our own good, of course, in a leftist world where morality itself is relative, hence voting twice is morally justified. *rolls eyes*

The dangerous illusion has each side perceiving itself as the opposite in number that it actually is. Not only do "conservatives" (lack of better term, perhaps Tea Partiers) perceive themselves as smaller in number because they have less elected representation, but leftists and liberals perceive themselves as bigger because of falslely elected liberalism and government tyranny. That illusion smashed will reveal a nation dominated by people who would vote to cut government and restore the freedoms to be self-dependent, whether individually or state-wide or nationally. The only reason everything we buy is "made in China" and gas costs have doubled, is because government tyranny has made it illegal for Americans to produce those things themselves.

Down deep, most Americans know this. We Americans are a good, moral people. The only way we take this nation back is when we take up that standard. LOSERS by definintion regard their fellow Americans with contempt. I see a lot of Republicans who are stone-cold losers.

Pray for America.

43 posted on 02/03/2013 11:27:10 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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Rove ISN'T as SMART as he's been given credit for. WHY?

He's ENTERED into a BATTLE he CANNOT possibly WIN.

44 posted on 02/03/2013 11:27:23 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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The pillsbury d’oh boy needs a slappin down(figuratively of course), like the beyotch she is.


45 posted on 02/03/2013 11:29:50 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Rove and the GOP elite are just as much an enemy as Obama.


47 posted on 02/03/2013 11:31:16 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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We’re REALLY getting under a lot of peoples skin, aren’t we?

And, GOOD!

Just remember, KARL - Republicans WERE a Third Party once-upon-a-time. People weren’t buying what The Whigs were selling. STILL AREN’T!

Get a clue.


52 posted on 02/03/2013 11:36:55 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Why does anyone listen to this loser?

His advice to GWB is what began the destruction of the Republican party and also which brought us President Barry Hussein Soetoro who was not born of US Citizen parents, and who uses an FALSE Social Security number. His service to Bush - “don't respond to your detractors” missed a huge opportunity for the leader of the GOP to use the bully pulpit to put down all the crap that was thrown against GWB and his party.

Now the GOP is wondering in the wilderness convinced by the wizards of smart on K street they have to grant amnesty to 30+ newly minted undocumented Dems in order to play on the RAT playing field. I want to puke - changed my registration to Ind in 2006 after the “San Francisco Values” crowd was installed in the House (because of GWB not fighting back).
54 posted on 02/03/2013 11:39:31 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Fine.....it’s on biatch!


55 posted on 02/03/2013 11:41:12 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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From the Politico:

Both the Club for Growth and the Senate Conservatives Fund – two of the most prominent groups that have boosted candidates on the right – mocked the new initiative as yet another hapless establishment-side attempt to  muzzle the GOP base.

Matt Hoskins, executive director of the Senate Conservatives Fund, branded it  the “Conservative Defeat Project.”

“The Conservative Defeat Project is yet another example of the Republican  establishment’s hostility toward its conservative base. Rather than listening to  the grassroots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has  chosen to declare war on the party’s most loyal supporters,” Hoskins said. “If  they keep this up, the party will remain in the wilderness for decades to  come.”

Club for Growth spokesman Barney Keller essentially responded by pointing to  the scoreboard in recent primaries in which conservative insurgents have  prevailed and emerged as influential GOP leaders.

“They are welcome to support the likes of Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist and  David Dewhurst,” Keller said of the new Crossroads group. “We will continue to proudly support the likes of Pat Toomey, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.”


56 posted on 02/03/2013 11:43:37 AM PST by Bratch
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Remember all those years on FR where we read: “Rove, you magnificent bastard”?

There were some of us who left out the “magnificent” and were castigated.


58 posted on 02/03/2013 11:49:55 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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GOP =

Giving
Obama a
Pass

John Boehner, Carl Rove, Mitch McConnell, John McCain and countless other's are to thank for that monicker.

As for me, I haven't claimed to be a Republican since 1991 when "read my lips, no new taxes" became a broken promise. The entire GOP/GOP-e (same thing in my book) can kiss my Conservative backside.

IMO, all right-thinking Conservatives left long ago. The Tea Party's a good start, it needs to be taken to the next level. I'll be one of those helping it.

67 posted on 02/03/2013 12:27:22 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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The group points to candidates like Christine O’Donnell in Delaware and Richard Mourdock in Indiana as examples of Tea Party primary picks going sideways in major Senatorial battles.

And I would point to John McCain and Mitt Romney going down in presidential campaigns

70 posted on 02/03/2013 12:31:14 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Good luck with that, RYMB (Rove You Magnificant Buffoon).


73 posted on 02/03/2013 12:37:16 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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