1 posted on
01/29/2013 10:27:11 PM PST by
Red Steel
To: Red Steel
I am afraid the GOPe-Dem coalition will pass this mostrosity
2 posted on
01/29/2013 10:29:03 PM PST by
GeronL
(http://asspos.blogspot.com)
To: Red Steel
Don’t mess it up or else Boehner may cry!
To: Red Steel
How can laws never enforced need to be overhauled?
5 posted on
01/29/2013 10:45:15 PM PST by
SatinDoll
(NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
To: Red Steel; Liz; AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; GOPsterinMA; ...
I thought the end of year tax fight was stupid and I figured they would lose another debt extension standoff, both deadline driven events.
But this is different. There is no hard deadline in passing amnesty except rushing it through before opposition can take hold.
What you are seeing with Bohner’s comment above and the Rubio comments on Obama’s plan is a deceptive scam to fool Republicans into thinking that they are opposing O while passing his plan.
In fact tonight over on the Dem channel ‘The Last Word’ they were joking about how they (Rubio, McCain, Bohner) have to play this ‘Obama’s plan is unacceptable’ act when the two plans are basically the same, to fool stupid Republicans into not opposing it.
As if Obama would veto a ‘path to voting’ bill that reaches his desk.
“ Ignore the ‘path to voting’ in the bill, keep your eye on the border instead”
If they give illegals the right to vote, even if delayed by a few years in the Rub bill, it is over,
Deficits, taxes, mandates,.... etc fights will be pointless.
Talk about convincing the voters will be meaningless.
We might as well all become Democrats at that point.
6 posted on
01/29/2013 11:09:38 PM PST by
sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
To: Red Steel; Liz; steerpike100; 9YearLurker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
And whether illegals come here and personally collect welfare or not is small potatoes.
The key is voting.
Many illegals who are already here (from childhood) will get educations discounted college like here in Maryland and if they get amnesty will pay taxes(government jobs) .
But they will line up and vote for the welfare state and progressive values.
Rubio on Rush today (Tues) said that they will open businesses and ‘understand the cost of government.’
This is very deceptive sweet sounding talk and how they are waging this fight: to convince us that illegals are natural (business owners) conservatives and that they (Rubio, McCain, Bohner) are fighting O on this.
7 posted on
01/29/2013 11:25:41 PM PST by
sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
To: Red Steel
I believe Boehner’s comment is part of ACT ONE from Kabuki Theater.
To: Red Steel
Wait. Boehner doesn’t know the congress rats are already on exactly the same page as the African communist scumbag?
Drag the debate to the left? WTF?!
To: Red Steel
There’s no more room on the left!
To: Red Steel
Bone-Head Boehner has GOT TO GO!
![](http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/Liberalscannotacceptreality.jpg)
This disgusting
Curse on our Nation named Barack Hussein Obama II,
aka Barry Soetoro, has
a real birth certificate, with his right footprint on it.
All you have to do is
look for it.
Here's some critical sources and FACTS.
![](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415M0b--7fL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,
For those of you who don't know, remember this:
The Democrats knew about this BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008!
8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me
that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.
Read it for yourself.
Then look at these links.
1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59
2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67
3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong
4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104
5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress
6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15
7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42
8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.
9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.
Just before the 2008 election
Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.
Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
![](http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/H3aCfR8rmrw/default.jpg)
There were
8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!
Obama's record is hard to find.
Check this link out
Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.
This document
from the British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. in 1961 In Kenya
shows
a birth date of Aug 4, 1961, the
exact date of genuine birth certificate with Obama's right foot print on it.
This IS
the very document that links the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF to his birth certificate.
Let me say again: Think about
this.
"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .
Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.
It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off.
While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."
Here's
something to ponder.
I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.
Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada.
She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.
The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable.
BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!
From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was: From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars: Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60
Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.
If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had."In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.
Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.
Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.
The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.
Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.
Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.
Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.
Read
INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961! The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.
Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.
Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:
Now go back and read
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.
Are you getting the depth of this
Fabian Society takeover?
You wouldn't believe the
information here
It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.
Anybody recall a press release telling the masses about federal intelligence notes sent warning police about this cabal?
![](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3QqO8EXd-II/S4t_2ln9cWI/AAAAAAAAxJc/hiphxracDgE/s1600/Obama%2BSocialist%2BPast.PNG )
12 posted on
01/30/2013 12:06:22 AM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Red Steel
humm, seems to me that the right things to do include the following:
make e-verify mandatory to end employer abuse of slave-wage, illegal immigration. i.e., why not remove the reason illegals come to America? unless of course you actually want them to come.
end the unconstitutional practice of allowing chain migration “citizenship” for the children of illegal immigrant parents. unless you think that anyone in the world has the authority to grant *themselves* citizenship in America through their children?
secure our borders by fully funding and enforcing *existing* immigration law as required of the federal government by the law of the land, The Constitution. unless you couldn’t careless about enforcing the Constitution. but then why would any politician not want to uphold their oath of office?
if you’re really serious about solving the immigration problem, one wonders why you don’t just implement this low hanging fruit. conversely, if you won’t even argue for these three preconditions before making a massive, costly, “comprehensive” effort which doesn’t include these simple things, then i submit that whether republican or democrat, you prove yourself to be an untrustworthy politician pandering for votes at the cost of an existential threat to our nation.
perhaps boehner is so busy salivating at the thought of pandering to all those latinos, that the right things to do just don’t occur to him.
13 posted on
01/30/2013 12:09:30 AM PST by
dadfly
To: Red Steel
15 posted on
01/30/2013 12:25:07 AM PST by
BOOHA
To: Red Steel
16 posted on
01/30/2013 12:25:19 AM PST by
BOOHA
To: Red Steel
In other words, we're giving you everything you want, so don't screw it up.
I'm sick of this, 2014 needs a house leadership change like a three day old diaper.
17 posted on
01/30/2013 12:25:26 AM PST by
MaxMax
To: Red Steel
Boehner has to be the dumbest a-hole to ever hold that position. He has fallen right into Obama’s trap. Obama laid out a plan so divisive and absurd it is doomed to fail. Of course, that was his intent. Obama’s plan makes the traitor’s plan look reasonable by comparison and that is exactly what he wants.
While Obama and his minions are laughing at Boner and the GOP we citizens are left to mourn or dead country.
18 posted on
01/30/2013 3:35:06 AM PST by
raybbr
(People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
To: Red Steel
Wish Boner showed this much backbone when it concerns American citizens.
Anyone still considering voting for GOP not only is a Liberal...but has many screws loose
19 posted on
01/30/2013 3:44:55 AM PST by
SeminoleCounty
(GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
To: Red Steel
Here's another example of why Boehner is a failure and will be a failure. His spokesman uses liberal talking points: "our broken immigration system". Really?
What exactly is broken about the immigration system? The main problem I see is that the current laws are not being enforced.
The problems with the current laws are never, ever mentioned. First, the law was changed to favor immigrants, putting the benefit to Americans and the United States by immigration has been lost.
Mark Levin pointed out last night how Eugene McCarthy and other liberals said that the US economy can not compete in the world on the basis of importing low cost (low wage) labor. But that's exactly what we're doing.
Allowing 10's of millions of foreigners and foreign governments determine the number of illegal aliens in our country is insane.
Boehner needs to change the template, not embrace it. He's a loser, he doesn't know what battle he's fighting. My suspicion is really that Boehner's on the other side. That he's losing on purpose, because he doesn't agree with conservative/libertarian positions.
21 posted on
01/30/2013 4:03:29 AM PST by
Jabba the Nutt
(.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
To: Red Steel
Let’s face it, this is nothing more than a ‘pandering for votes’ campaign.
El Rushbo has an amendment to this amnesty proposal that would suit me just fine - “withhold voting rights to the illegals for 25 years”.
33 posted on
01/30/2013 8:23:56 AM PST by
shove_it
(Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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