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To: Red Steel; Liz; steerpike100; 9YearLurker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...

And whether illegals come here and personally collect welfare or not is small potatoes.
The key is voting.

Many illegals who are already here (from childhood) will get educations discounted college like here in Maryland and if they get amnesty will pay taxes(government jobs) .
But they will line up and vote for the welfare state and progressive values.

Rubio on Rush today (Tues) said that they will open businesses and ‘understand the cost of government.’

This is very deceptive sweet sounding talk and how they are waging this fight: to convince us that illegals are natural (business owners) conservatives and that they (Rubio, McCain, Bohner) are fighting O on this.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 11:25:41 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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There’s certainly no doubt that most of the nation’s illegal aliens come from socialist countries and would vote for more of the same. However, I wonder how many would even apply for citizenship. Do they even want to be Americans? I don’t know. It seems like many don’t want to adopt our culture or language, preferring instead to bring their countries here.

Businesses like the cheap labor. How large is our undocumented economy? Are these folks going to pay far more for legal employees? I don’t know. There’s a reason why companies hire illegals and pay them off the books—it’s profitable and undercuts legal competition.

Then you have this secure border nonsense. I read Senator Rubio wants a commission that includes representatives from border states to first certify the border is secure before we get an amnesty. Who will sit on this commission? Will it be composed of equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans? We know where THAT would lead, as the RINOs would join the Dems to certify the border in short order.

There’s no will to enforce current law. We would be fools to believe government will suddenly start enforcing a slew of new laws. They don’t want to round up illegal aliens now. What will they do when millions more sneak in (in spite of the “certified secure” border) after this amnesty. Again, we’d be utter fools to believe them this time. It’s been done before! We KNOW how it turns out.


9 posted on 01/29/2013 11:55:50 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana; Grampa Dave; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...
Rubio is engaging in very deceptive, sweet sounding talk, attempting to convince recalcitrant Americans that illegals are "conservatives," and that Rubio, McCain, Bohner are fighting Obama on this. Truth is----the key to amnesty is voting by hate-mongering latino pressure groups. That translates into (1) a permanent Dem party, and, (2) US foreign aid zillions to the corrupt Third World.

Sure would like to see Rubio's emails, cell phone records, and the like----to see who in the Third World is giving him orders.

The salivating federales see a Pres Rubio as their ticket to untold riches----as the dispenser of US tax dollars. The playbook is already in-place---Rubio hired a neocon for his campaign.

The cunning pukeneos are masters at duping US presidents and blanketing America-hating hellholes with tax dollars.

29 posted on 01/30/2013 6:08:32 AM PST by Liz
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