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No, Sidwell Friends School has no armed guards [We Obama critics were wrong on this one]
Washington Post ^ | January 18, 2013 | Valerie Strauss

Posted on 01/20/2013 6:49:30 PM PST by grundle

The National Rifle Association is airing a television ad (and has on its website this four-minute video) that says the private school that President Obama’s daughters attend, Sidwell Friends School, has 11 armed guards. It doesn’t.

In fact, it has no armed guards. My Post colleague Glenn Kessler, who writes The Fact Checker column, wrote about the issue here and quoted Ellis Turner, associate head of Sidwell Friends, as saying: “Sidwell Friends security officers do not carry guns.”

Parents and students say they have never seen one either.

The president’s children are protected by Secret Service agents, which is required by federal law, but that is not the same thing as armed school resource officers.

The Fact Checker, who hands out “Pinocchios” depending on how accurate — or inaccurate — a particular story is, gave the NRA and its ad the worst possible rating, four Pinocchios. Whereas three Pinocchios are given for “significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions,” four Pinocchios are given for “whoppers.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; obamafamily; schoolsecurity; sidwellfriends; usss
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To: Bryanw92
The fact that the secret service protects the Obama girls (as they should) means that is probably the single most heavily guarded and armed schools in the country. In fact the secret service carry weapons that are already pretty much off limits to the rest of us.

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In fact, if the guards were armed, the secret service very likely required them to be disarmed. They aren't going to let just anybody guard the girls.
21 posted on 01/20/2013 7:04:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: grundle
However, it turns out that I, and many others here,

Speak for yourself.

22 posted on 01/20/2013 7:04:22 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: grundle
The basic point of the NRA ad is still valid even if it's true that Sidwell Friends
has no armed security. 0bama's children do and he opposes that for us serfs.
23 posted on 01/20/2013 7:05:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: grundle

“In fact, it has no armed guards.”

Now.


24 posted on 01/20/2013 7:06:32 PM PST by DBrow
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To: porter_knorr

Post links?


25 posted on 01/20/2013 7:07:37 PM PST by DBrow
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To: grundle

“...11 armed guards”

Sorry, but I won’t apologize to anyone - in this case for several reasons:

1) If the Secret Service is there, then they don’t need ‘armed guards’, simply because the Secret Service will do that job for them. Anyone that comes within a mile of that school will be tracked and greeted, long before they can pose a threat to anyone.

2) Even when the President’s family is not at the school, there are BOATLOADS of kids of high-ranking government people, including Senators and Congressmen (as well as department heads, etc.). There is simply NO WAY that such a target-rich environment (at least as a kook would see it) would he left unguarded, and it shouldn’t be. In other words, NO WAY!!!

3) Finally, if they didn’t really have armed people there, does one think they would announce it?

So, no, maybe they don’t have ‘armed guards’, but they DEFINITELY have a lot of “armed people” there - maybe janitors, cooks, office workers, etc (who just happen to be plainclothes cops). The official guards, the ones at the TV monitors don’t have to be armed, all they need are radios to reach the right people.


26 posted on 01/20/2013 7:07:54 PM PST by BobL
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To: grundle

You really think the girls and all the other “special children” aren’t protected by armed personnel? You really think they’re going to tell you security arrangements?


27 posted on 01/20/2013 7:09:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: grundle
the point is zero has his kids protected by armed guards and doesn't want me to protect my kids with arms
28 posted on 01/20/2013 7:09:47 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: grundle

This doesn’t change the fact that *no* Federal employee,past or present...elected,appointed or civil service...should have armed protection of *any* sort.And that goes for the family members of any such employee.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 7:10:49 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: grundle

The school doesn’t have to employee armed guards. High profile families employee private armed bodyguards at private schools for their children and I am not referring to secret service agents. Be assured that there is plenty of lead in that school even when the first children are not enrolled.


30 posted on 01/20/2013 7:11:24 PM PST by Toespi
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To: grundle

If so, it’s only because the secret service won’t let them carry...


31 posted on 01/20/2013 7:12:03 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Personally, I hope those girls have all sorts of guards and protectors at all times.

Imagine what the country would go through if harm came to one of them.

Those girls didn’t pick out their parents-—and for all I can tell, they are nice young girls.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and I can see no reason to criticize the parenting they are getting.

One thing I will compliment their parents on is keeping them mostly out of the public view. Remember how sick we were are seeing and hearing about Chelsea Clinton?


32 posted on 01/20/2013 7:12:32 PM PST by basil (basil)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Personally, I hope those girls have all sorts of guards and protectors at all times.

Imagine what the country would go through if harm came to one of them.

Those girls didn’t pick out their parents-—and for all I can tell, they are nice young girls.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and I can see no reason to criticize the parenting they are getting.

One thing I will compliment their parents on is keeping them mostly out of the public view. Remember how sick we were are seeing and hearing about Chelsea Clinton?


33 posted on 01/20/2013 7:12:32 PM PST by basil (basil)
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To: grundle; All

I commend you for wanting to get the facts straight regardless of some embarrassment by doing so.

Pardon my naivety in such issues, but isn’t the Secret Service armed? If so, then I think that the SS would secure the school if they heard shots being fired at the school, regardless if there was no immediate danger to Obama’s daughters.

In fact, if I was in charge of the school then I would look at the SS’s presence as a freebe with respect to not having to use school funds to pay for security. And for all we know, the school might have expressed the same thing to the SS, the SS possibly responding, “we’ll take care of it.” I don’t know.

What am I overlooking?


34 posted on 01/20/2013 7:13:55 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: grundle

“Fact Checker”. ROTFL!!! I guess he’s never heard of the Secret Service.


35 posted on 01/20/2013 7:15:52 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: grundle

Washington DC Police Department is two blocks away.


36 posted on 01/20/2013 7:17:58 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: basil

I would bet that the SS would not allow anyone at the school to be armed, except SS agents. There’s no telling what the policy was before the Obama children attended the school.


37 posted on 01/20/2013 7:18:59 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: grundle

Way to go, WP! Draw a little more attention to the security arrangements of the president’s family. Does anyone believe the SS would allow nonSS armed personnel near one of their protectees?


38 posted on 01/20/2013 7:20:00 PM PST by petitfour
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To: grundle

If Sidwell had no armed guards, then why didn’t they refute the charges when they were first aired? I simply don’t believe the wapo article.


39 posted on 01/20/2013 7:20:00 PM PST by Salvey
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