[Army Air Corps]

It seems that we have struck a nerve among the lefties. I know this article is old, but I didn't find it previously posted (I tried a search by title). I post this for an example of the sort of arguments that the Left shall attempt to use against us in conversation. I know a hard left individual who has recently been trumpeting this article as if it provides for him a complete refutation of any claims that Hitler was a gungrabber.

[Army Air Corps]

Please change the source title. The artilce is from Salon.com and not Politico - I goofed when I made the post.

[MasterGunner01]

The Politico is lying again. The 1968 GCA was modeled after the 1938 Nazi Weapons Control Act. It Sen. Thomas Dodd (D-CT) was heavily involved in writing the 1968 GCA and he used HIS copy of the 1938 Act as his source document.

Go here: http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

[Jack Hydrazine]

“Gun Control’s” Nazi Connection
Startling evidence suggests that the Gun Control Act of 1968
was lifted, almost in its entirety, from Nazi legislation.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

[TigersEye]

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning?

What kind of murder-minded totalitarian could make that statement with a straight face? Oh, a University of Chicago law professor.

[Tzimisce]

...Hitler also had a lying media who distorted the truth to support his regime...

[tet68]

the ancillary claim that Jews could have stopped the Holocaust with more guns doesn’t make any sense at all if you think about it for more than a minute.

Well, I thought about it but it still makes sense to me.
It might not have stopped the Holocaust but it sure would
have made the price higher and it sure would have saved
Jewish lives.

[230FMJ]

The left has a problem here. Sen. Thomas Dodd gave us the Gun Control Act of 1968 in the hysterical “do something” aftermath of the assainations of MLK and RFK. But he didn’t formulate the law, he just had it translated from German. The Nazi’s had already written it for him.

[funfan]

Sure just like Romney making up lies about Mali oh wait that was true. The left will twist and turn everything to the side they want. I am afraid of Obama and his regime I really think he wants to kill everyone who does not agree with him just like his friend Bill Ayers did. I am serious

[Kozak]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

[ConorMacNessa]

"And the ancillary claim that Jews could have stopped the Holocaust with more guns doesn’t make any sense at all if you think about it for more than a minute."

Maybe they would not have stopped it, but they would certainly have made it much more difficult for the Nazis to exterminate them - and they would have died bravely instead of being mowed down like grass.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

[iacovatx]

If the author’s argument is correct, then why did the Allied forces ask their defeated German and Japanese foes to surrender their arms? Why not just give them even more guns?
The logic is invisible here.

[Sir Napsalot]

Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

That guy was so busy building strawman arguments, it's a wonder the price of hay didn't skyrocket.

In his/her writing, Jews armed with guns had no chance against Hilter and his war machine. Because most people are unwilling to die, so they prefer to be herded onto the train.

So American ragtag band had no chance against the Brits either. Right, Alex?

[Panama714]

“Bartov added that this misreading of history is not only intellectually dishonest, but also dangerous. “I happen to have been a combat soldier and officer in the Israeli Defense Forces and I know what these assault rifles can do,” he said in an email.”

So this guy compares fully automatic weapons he saw/used as a combat soldier in Israel to semi-automatic rifles here in America? Talk about intellectually dishonest and dangerous, this guy takes the cake.

[meyer]

“In Germany, Jewish extermination began with the Nazi Weapon Law of 1938, signed by Adolf Hitler.”

And in the US, if the liberals have their way, the extermination of conservatives will begin the same way! Thing is, I think that enough of us remember history to make that undertaking a much more difficult task for our national socialists than it was for Hitler's goons back in '38.

[45semi]

Surprised havent seen this yet...

[TigersEye]

If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

OK, Professor Straw Man.

If gun control doesn’t cause genocide, then neither do guns kill people
(murdering lunatics kill people.) So gun control is pointless.

[jeffc]

And the ancillary claim that Jews could have stopped the Holocaust with more guns doesn’t make any sense at all if you think about it for more than a minute.

Well, the government's "war on poverty" (welfare)hasn't really reduced poverty, so.......

Somehow, I don't think liberals would like to hear that argument; also, the author's claim is just a strawman argument anyway, but it's always fun to fight fire with fire.

[unixman9627]

One note from the law is this “The law restricted ownership of firearms to ...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit.”

Question is who determined the “trustworthiness” of the applicant. Guess that would be some Nazi party hack who only approved the applications of other Nazi party hacks. Kinda like Democrats.

Kinda puts the law into a perspective for me.

[Caipirabob]

You had to know if you lived long enough, you see the democrats try to rehabilitate Hitler’s image...

Says the left: “Poor Hitler, he was just misunderstood...why no, we aren’t copyin hid exact policies and behavior....”

[freeandfreezing]

"the ancillary claim that Jews could have stopped the Holocaust with more guns doesn’t make any sense at all if you think about it for more than a minute."

Actually it sounds to me like an argument for reducing restrictions on private weapons ownership, and ensuring that a large percentage of the civilian population is armed and trained in resistance tactics.

That and more solid intelligence about what the government planned, which suggests requiring more citizen access to government information and a more unbiased media, may well have changed the course of history in Europe.