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TODAY SHOW - NO "ASSAULT WEAPONS" USED IN SANDY HOOK MASSACRE
Today show ^ | 12-15-2012 | NBC

Posted on 01/17/2013 6:38:37 AM PST by AngryCapitalist

Pete Williams reports that no AR USED AT SANDY HOOK! Only 4 handguns found, Lanza left his rifle in the car. This is why Sandy HOOK was never mentioned at yesterday's signing by Barry.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

(Excerpt) Read more at video.today.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; liberalmedia; nbc; nbcnews; newtown; sandyhook; sandyhookshooting; sandyhookweapons; secondamendment
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To: Gilbo_3; Lazamataz

I’m listening to the Adams County Sheriff feed right now.


141 posted on 01/17/2013 9:21:21 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Gadsden1st
Also, I believe a Sig .223 “pistol” could be confused as a “military automatic gun” by reporters that don’t know anything about guns.

The liberal press would call a water pistol an automatic weapon because you can get multiple shots out of it.

142 posted on 01/17/2013 9:23:05 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Boogieman

I could not clearly see if it had a bottom loading mag. It had a pistol grip though. And the barrel was quite long, which identifies not only with a regular hunting shotgun, but also a Saiga.

4th look. It was being held using the pistol grip, but it did NOT have a magazine loader. It most likely is a hunting shotgun with a pistol grip.


143 posted on 01/17/2013 9:24:23 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: txrefugee

“The story changed from the fact that the rifle was locked in the murderer’s car to the lie that ALL the shots were fired with the rifle.”

You’ve got it exactly backwards. There was no rifle locked in the trunk, that was a lie, or rather I would call it an erroneous report. You can watch the video yourself and see that it is not a rifle.


144 posted on 01/17/2013 9:25:14 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: USAF80

Do they also make ARs that fire shotgun shells?


145 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:58 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: stuartcr

It can’t, but this kid supposedly argued with 4 people at the school the day before. About what? of course that info disappeared down the hole with everything else.

LOL


146 posted on 01/17/2013 9:29:11 AM PST by dforest
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To: Boogieman

“Why are you posting an old report that we know to be inaccurate?”

Thanks for raising the issue.

Perpetuating misinformation is dangerous to the credibility of conservative forums such as this one.

Again and again and again and again (had enough?), I’ve seen this malarkey posted here, to wit: “the rifle was in the trunk of the car!”, “he didn’t shoot them with a rifle”, etc.

Gosh, folks, if one’s going to attempt to be conservative, shouldn’t one embrace one of the core tenets of conservatism first? That is to say, understand what reality is and get your facts and information straight.

There was a great deal of misinformation put forth (mostly as speculation) at the outset of the shooting. Most of that was cleared within the next day, by which time the “fog of rumors” had cleared and empirical facts had emerged.

As a great lady once remarked (paraphrasing), one may be entitled to one’s own opinion, but one is not entitled to one’s own set of facts...


147 posted on 01/17/2013 9:30:16 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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148 posted on 01/17/2013 9:30:24 AM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Gilbo_3
Actual witness
149 posted on 01/17/2013 9:32:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: PMAS

A shotgun is not a rifle. You’d be better off saying “there was a weapon found in the trunk”.


150 posted on 01/17/2013 9:32:35 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: BerryDingle

“One reporter asked the ME how the wounds could be rifle rounds if the rifle was found in the trunk. The ME just stood and stuttered at the question until the subject was changed.”

No, the question was asked and two separate law enforcement officials immediately answered that that story was incorrect.


151 posted on 01/17/2013 9:33:46 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: ILS21R

First of all, there was no “bullet-proof vest”, and second of all, the Bushmaster wasn’t in the car. Go watch the video yourself, it’s not even a rifle.


152 posted on 01/17/2013 9:37:41 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

HAHAHA, checkmate. They do, however, make it possible for single/double bbl shotguns to shoot rimfire and centerfire rounds. I know. Why!?


153 posted on 01/17/2013 9:39:38 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

>> “And if true...why oh why would the ME in the case report all deaths were caused by .223 ammo?” <<

.
We do not know that the ME reported any such thing. We were given second hand info to that effect, but I never heard any ME say anything.


154 posted on 01/17/2013 9:46:50 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: LivingNet

He does say it was “the rifle”, when asked for clarification if it was the “long gun”. When asked about the caliber, he declined to answer, because that is a question for the police department, since that is who does the ballistics examination, not the medical examiner. They were clear in the press conference that a rifle caused the wounds, and that the rifle was not found in the trunk. Since there was only one rifle found at the scene, it’s pretty cut and dry that it was the one they are talking about.


155 posted on 01/17/2013 9:47:05 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

They have ones that look like an AR. The AR is a popular platform that has been copied a bunch.

Akdal MKA 1919 semi-auto shotgun. No T-shaped charging handle. Side mounted charger. Can’t tell the difference because the mags are the same dimensions as a regular 5.56.


156 posted on 01/17/2013 9:47:26 AM PST by USAF80
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To: FantasticWorld

Nice first post.

Welcome to Free Republic.


157 posted on 01/17/2013 9:50:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Gilbo_3; stuartcr
RE :”How come the GOP/NRA hasnt put any kids on FNC to counter this ? That would be entertaining if nothing else.
.....
yep, like the 15 yr old that used an *gasp* AR15 to protect himself and sister from a home invasion...”

From an illegal alien criminal serial rapist to make it a two-fer.

158 posted on 01/17/2013 9:57:45 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: SgtHooper

Why did they make a car that could drive into a lake? Probably just because they could.


159 posted on 01/17/2013 10:00:19 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: USAF80

Sure, but my point is, in the video of them recovering the weapon from the trunk, they are ejecting rounds, and what pops out is clearly a shotgun shell. So, the weapon must be a shotgun, and not any type of rifle.

I think it’s a tactical-style shotgun that could look superficially similar to an assault rifle to an untrained observer, so that may be where the confusion arose on the part of the media.


160 posted on 01/17/2013 10:09:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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