Sandy Hook and Christopher Rodia – Most ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ Can’t Think

JoeQuinn.com ^ | January 11, 2013 | Joe Quinn

[Uncle Chip]

Apparently many alternative news pundits and Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists are still fixated on the idea that a man named Christopher Rodia was the REAL owner of the black Honda Civic that has been identified as the car of Adam Lanza’s mother and which was found outside the Sandy Hook elementary school.

The basis for this erroneous belief is police scanner audio that was picked up from the morning of Dec. 14th and details Connecticut State Police response to the massacre.

I obtained the original audio files from Radioreference.com. I had to pay a small sum for the full files. I have listened to them, and it is pretty clear that it is rather unlikely that the aforementioned Christopher Rodia had anything to do with the Sandy Hook massacre, even if his name and DOB is mentioned in the audio. This doesn’t seem to dissuade the conspiracy nuts though. In fact, it just makes them even nuttier.

What so many of these nutty people have apparently missed is the fact that the audio files clearly contain police communications about MORE than just the Sandy Hook event.

In the audio streams there are several communications from Connecticut State police who are clearly not involved in the response to Sandy Hook and are just out there doing their ‘normal’ jobs of stopping people for no reason and catching speeding drivers.

The Connecticut State police scanner audio from the morning of Dec. 14th 2012, as provided by Radioreference.com, begins at 9.34am and lasts for one hour until 10.34am i.e. it begins at about the time Lanza is said to have entered the school and lasts for one hour.

[Uncle Chip]

They look like khaki camouflage pants. So they could be described either way — khaki or camo depending upon the person.

[Uncle Chip]

Is that Manfredonia???

[potlatch]

You must have seen my comments on another Sandy Hook thread where I had some 'questions'. It's dangerous to 'question' because it makes one an 'idiot'.....lol.

We all know there are no conspiracies....

[saleman]

So, the Attorney General, Of the United States of America, meets with investigators of a mass murder, and not one media person, as far as I know says “hey Mr. Attorney general what did ya’ll discuss the other day” Or how about “Mr President what did your attorney general discuss over there in Conneticut?” Maybe they are working on “some things under the radar” again? Just seems kinda curious to me.

As for the Medical examiner. I read his statement. I wish I could find it, I’ll try. He never said “they were killed with the AR.” Or anything like that. I think I commented what an evasive answer he gave, I’ll try to find it here..

[Valpal1]

Scroll all the way down to the bottom.
http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-27__14-58-27/Police+Union+Seeks+Funding+For+Trauma+Treatment

A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.

[Uncle Chip]

He never said “they were killed with the AR.”

The ME said quite clearly that they were all killed with the "long rifle" except for the shooter. He was not in any way evasive.

[Boogieman]

Alright, that does look to be the same guy, so I would have to agree that is Manfredonia.

Now, do we have any discernable photos of the “camo pants” guy to be sure he is not the same man? I have only seen video that is too distant to make out any details. Witnesses often get details wrong, so I wouldn’t think it impossible for someone to say “camo pants” when the guy was really just wearing khakis.

[Uncle Chip]

Well what was he doing there??? First I have heard of that.

[Valpal1]

Well, one logical explanation is that he was a late responder (because he was off duty) and was told to or elected to approach from a distance and/or to clear the woods, just in case there was a second shooter based on reports of the as yet unidentified Manfredonia running around the back of the school.

It would be the rational thing to do tactically and he was a tactical squad member. It’s what I would do if I was a late responder.

[saleman]

Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that “Only the rifle was used on the victims”, a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state’s chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had “three to 11 wounds apiece”. He also said that the ‘gunman’ used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the ‘shooter’ was able to reload so quickly because he had “taped two magazines together.” Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.”

How would the medical examiner deduce from autopsies that a military style rifle was used and had magazines taped together? And still no word on what calibre weapon was used.

If the .233(sic) caused the wounds that killed the kids then I believe that would be the first thing that would come out. Cause it would fit the “assault weapons” spin. But the fact that, as far as I know, no info on what bullets were used in the murders tells me that the .223 was not the murder weapon

Here is the Medical examiners statement and my reply. Notice The Associated press reported....It is not rocket science to say the wounds were caused by a .223 rifle. He does not say that. And he had ample opportunity.

[Boogieman]

I also believe that he specifically stated “the Bushmaster” when pressed about the long gun, but I’ll have to rewatch the video to be sure. Anyway, as there was only one rifle found at the scene, just saying “the rifle” is specific enough for any reasonable person to infer he means the only rifle that was found, namely the AR-15.

[Uncle Chip]

He was/is the medical examiner not the ballistics examiner. He chose not to go into it any further than to say that they had been killed with the “long rifle”.

[Uncle Chip]

It sure would be nice to know where and when he was found and if that is him in post 175.

[Valpal1]

How would the medical examiner deduce from autopsies that a military style rifle was used and had magazines taped together? And still no word on what calibre weapon was used.

Because he saw them? It's very likely that his photographer took photos of the weapon and magazines for the various and numerous files and reports they would have to generate. Also a coroner of his experience would be able to tell the caliber when removing the bullets. However (and the coroner mentioned this in the interview) He wasn't answering that question because he's not the ballistics expert and the courts don't allow him to testify to that fact so he was leaving it to the LEO to answer (presumably because the ballistics expert works for the state police lab rather than for the coroner's office).

[Boogieman]

“He never said “they were killed with the AR.””

Ok, I just rewatched the statement. First he says “the long weapon”, and then immediately clarifies to say “the rifle”. Next, they ask him what caliber of ammunition caused the wounds, and he implies that he could tell, but says that, in court, they usually yell at not to answer that type of question, so he says he will leave that to the police. I guess nobody remembered to ask the police afterwards, because I haven’t seen any video of them providing that answer.

A couple questions later, another report asks about the weapon again, and the ME repeats that the wounds were caused by “the long rifle”. One of the reporters then even says “But the long rifle was discovered in the car”, to which two different police officials respond “that’s incorrect” and “that’s not correct, sir”.

The whole thing seems pretty clear to me. There was only one rifle involved in the shooting, so “the rifle” can only mean the AR-15. They also squash the rumor about the rifle being in the trunk of the car in the same press conference. How is there any room for controversy after that?

[RummyChick]

I can’t find ANY children in ANY helicopter shot.
I can’t find Children meeting up with their parents from the air but of course it could be difficult to detect.

I can’t find the numbers that would go along with this incident.

Were NONE of the children injured but alive???

It’s possible they were either dead or mentally traumatized.

Why is all of this important?

Obama is seizing on this incident to take away your 2nd amendment rights.

Something is off about the information that is being given to the public.

Why are things like that important.

Let’s take Sorcha Faal. He writes a story. It gets picked up on news outlets. It circulates the net. It gets posted here over and over again on this site with people believing what he is saying is true.

Every time I see this I tell people to look at the original source.

It is really unclear whether he is just an internet hoaxster, a democrat operative, or doing the bidding of some intelligence service from some country.

There could be more to the Sorcha Faal story.

Just like there could be more to this one.

Is the Sandy Hook never happened line of inquiry instigated by the same thinking or operative as Sorcha Faal???

Make everyone scream NUTTER while hiding something else?

I definitely believe it is possible.

There is no way that I believe the media wouldn’t take more pictures of all of those kids.

You don’t just take one a couple of pictures. You snap away at this kind of incident and later decide what to use.

This story is so huge and so germane to Obama’s argument it doesn’t make sense that these are the only photos released.

Unless the Obama regime demanded them not to be released

[RummyChick]

The girl who is intentionally giving the devil sign is not a toddler and she has done it in more than one picture.

Or did you miss that part of the picture.

Maybe she likes Ozzie Osbourne.

[saleman]

“I guess nobody remembered to ask the police afterwards”

Yea. I guess not. Here’s and idea. Why doesn’t somebody ask them now? Oh, that’s right. It’s “under investigation”.

[Boogieman]

“Why doesn’t somebody ask them now?”

Actually, I think the answer is because most of us are satisfied with the answers they have given. You are the one who doesn’t seem satisfied, so why don’t YOU ask them?

Here, I will make it easy for you, so you have no excuse not to do so. Here is their contact info:

Newtown Police Department

Address:

3 Main Street
Newtown, CT 06470

Phone: (203)270-4255
Fax: (203)270-0637

Chief Michael Kehoe
michael.kehoe@newtown-ct.gov

Captain Joe Rios
joe.rios@newtown-ct.gov

Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
11 Shuttle Road
Farmington, Ct. 06032
(860) 679-3980 (Voice)
(860) 679-1257 (FAX)
1-800-842-8820 (CT only)

H. Wayne Carver II, M.D.
Chief Medical Examiner
hwc2@ocme.org

Now, you should at least be able to ask them the question, and find out if they will give you an answer. Maybe they will not, but I think you should at least give them the opportunity before you go accusing them of a cover-up on the internet.

[RummyChick]

Are you really that obtuse.

Think back to Obama and all the photos that have been released.

The Obama regime knows that those photos will be combed over every which way.

Why release OBVIOUS photo shop jobs?

There are all kinds of tactics when practicing a disinformation campaign.

You play right into them.

Let’s scream nutter rather than look at the photo. Determine if it is photoshopped. Determine when it was released.

It is a plausible theory that the photo could be photoshopped to gin up controversy so people like you would scream NUTTER NUTTER NUTTER NUTTER NUTTER NUTTER NUTTER. The line of thinking continues on to most things related to Sandy Hook.

Everyone goes around screaming NUTTER with the fingers in the ears instead of looking at what they may be trying to hide.

It is entirely within the realm of reality that INTENTIONAL CONFLICTING facts are released in an incident.

Sometimes it is done to try to help catch a criminal.

There are other reasons why it happens.

But I guess you can’t figure out why.