Posted on 01/16/2013 5:55:19 AM PST by Uncle Chip
Apparently many alternative news pundits and Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists are still fixated on the idea that a man named Christopher Rodia was the REAL owner of the black Honda Civic that has been identified as the car of Adam Lanza’s mother and which was found outside the Sandy Hook elementary school.
The basis for this erroneous belief is police scanner audio that was picked up from the morning of Dec. 14th and details Connecticut State Police response to the massacre.
I obtained the original audio files from Radioreference.com. I had to pay a small sum for the full files. I have listened to them, and it is pretty clear that it is rather unlikely that the aforementioned Christopher Rodia had anything to do with the Sandy Hook massacre, even if his name and DOB is mentioned in the audio. This doesn’t seem to dissuade the conspiracy nuts though. In fact, it just makes them even nuttier.
What so many of these nutty people have apparently missed is the fact that the audio files clearly contain police communications about MORE than just the Sandy Hook event.
In the audio streams there are several communications from Connecticut State police who are clearly not involved in the response to Sandy Hook and are just out there doing their ‘normal’ jobs of stopping people for no reason and catching speeding drivers.
The Connecticut State police scanner audio from the morning of Dec. 14th 2012, as provided by Radioreference.com, begins at 9.34am and lasts for one hour until 10.34am i.e. it begins at about the time Lanza is said to have entered the school and lasts for one hour.
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Why is that impossible??? I say that it was a magnificent effort and I applaud them.
They got the call, drove to the school, got their vests on, got SWAT organized, chased a couple shadow guys, entered the school, went through the entire school to make sure there were no other gunmen hiding in classrooms
There were 13? officers who responded to the call. While 6? were chasing the guy into the woods [3-4:00], the other 7? were entering the front broken glass. And after they cleared the kids in 14 classrooms out of the school in 18 minutes, they went back and checked the whole school and that took about another half hour.
Who said that they were "accurate".
He had his marks cornered in one room and probably mostly huddled together. They certainly weren't running very fast or far if at all. Ohhh yehhh that takes a real marksman.
And he still missed everything with half his shots. Is that your definition of accurate???
I'll tell you why. Because they are using this to further the governments agenda of gun control. “Never let a crisis go to waste”. They are propping up these dead children to further a political agenda. And that's disgusting. Now, that's a fact that as far as I can tell is beyond dispute. Is it a conspiracy to withhold info to further a political policy? Yes.
At 10-12 rounds per minute that might be so but everytime you pull the trigger in a semi-automatic a round is fired and that can be done at 45 rounds per minute. At 50% accuracy you can hit 22 targets in just one minute.
A gun free zone at an elementary school is NOT a tactical situation. It’s a free kill zone full of unarmed women and children who are offering little to no resistance.
At 45 shots per minute, he only had to have a 33% hit rate over that 10 minute period.
Good Point —
“They are using “can’t comment it’s under investigation” BS to justify not releasing information. Why?”
Maybe because it’s under investigation? You know, usually the most obvious and least convoluted answer is the correct one. Nearly every investigation conducted refuses to release a large part of the evidence until the investigation is over. Public disclosures are the exception, not the norm.
“Because they are using this to further the governments agenda of gun control. “Never let a crisis go to waste”. They are propping up these dead children to further a political agenda.”
I do agree with you that politicians are using the crisis to push gun control. However, I don’t see how you make the logical leap from that to the investigators colluding with them to suppress something that would get in the way of that agenda. How can you determine that if you have no idea what they may be suppressing? It’s just pure, wanton, baseless speculation that isn’t worth a moment of consideration for a reasonable person.
If you came back, after the investigation had concluded and released a report that didn’t match up with some evidence, then I might pay attention. However, you aren’t doing that. You’re claiming a cover up, and yet you have no cover story to point to, since it doesn’t exist yet. As far as you know, the investigation may conclude that all of your suspicions are correct. Why don’t you wait and find out before making accusations?
They could make it easy and release the photos of Lanza allegedly shooting his way in and allegedly walking alone down the hallway carrying an assault rifle. That wouldn’t affect the investigation one bit and would put to rest the vast majority of questions as well. Would also be helpful to know who the guy in camo was and why his storry was dropped faster than John Doe #2 in OKC.
They could make it easy and release the photos of Lanza allegedly shooting his way in and allegedly walking alone down the hallway carrying an assault rifle. That wouldn’t affect the investigation one bit and would put to rest the vast majority of questions as well. Would also be helpful to know who the guy in camo was and why his storry was dropped faster than John Doe #2 in OKC.Janet Reno brought in Wesley Clarke's tanks because children were abused, illegal weapons manufactured, methedrine cooked--
Oh, wait--
McVeigh and Nichols couldn't do ANFO right until the FBI informant taught them--
And then there was the license plate--
And the dead waitress, the missing motel records, and all of that--
And let's not bring up TWA 800--all solved with the CIA cartoon.
There are anomalies remaining in re Aurora--his therapist's records, and she the former AF CMO--
Sidney Gottlieb, Cass Sunstein, and other responsible citizens want this conspiracy speculation to end right here right now.
The year is young and the Reichstag operation which fizzled with F & F has only begun to rekindle.
Patience.
Sure, they could, if those photos exist, and I think they probably do. I wish they would release them, but I don’t hold out much hope that it would stop the conspiracy theorists. Still, the fact that they haven’t been released is not evidence of any conspiracy, since one wouldn’t expect that type of evidence to normally be released this early in an investigation, unless they were trying to get the public’s help in identifying an unknown suspect.
“Would also be helpful to know who the guy in camo was and why his storry was dropped faster than John Doe #2 in OKC.”
Referencing John Doe #2 is just silly, it adds nothing to the discussion besides trying to infer that there is some cover-up about the “guy in camo”. From what I can tell, that guy has already been identified as Chris Manfredonia. Some people don’t want to accept that identification, but nobody has been able to give me any reasonable answer as to why we should believe it wasn’t him.
Manfredonia was the volunteer father. He was not wearing camo.
“I do agree with you that politicians are using the crisis to push gun control. However, I don’t see how you make the logical leap from that to the investigators colluding with them to suppress something that would get in the way of that agenda. How can you determine that if you have no idea what they may be suppressing?”
Why did Eric Holder meet with the investigators? Here’s one thing I know “they” are suppressing. What weapon killed the children? No one will say, without plausible deniability. It has been suggested that it was the .223. But please point me to any credible info where someone that would know says “the kids were killed with the AR-15. Now, how would that information jeopardize their precious investigation?
Maybe they were. Doesn’t make on little bit of difference to me. Dead is dead. But, what happens when, after New York basically bans “assault weapons” and El Presidente trys the same thing, we find out after their exaustive “investigation” that they were killed with a shotgun?
Hell, the left would then get a two-fer. If I were to want to kill as many people as possible in a confined space what would I use? Shotgun. Well we can’t have that can we? As Feinstein said “ban-em all”
And you know that how????
Looks like Khaki pants and dress shoes, not someone who was just chased through the woods wearing camo pants.
“He was not wearing camo.”
How do we know that? Is there a picture of him out there? Last time I checked, I didn’t find one.
See above.
“Why did Eric Holder meet with the investigators?”
I don’t know, maybe he saw the opportunity for a photo op. Maybe Obama ordered him to go meet with them, so the administration could appear to be “doing something”.
“Here’s one thing I know “they” are suppressing. What weapon killed the children? No one will say, without plausible deniability.”
The AR-15 killed them, that was stated pretty clearly by the medical examiner who performed some of the autopsies himself. Having performed some of the autopsies, and supervised the rest, he is in a position to know firsthand what weapon was used, and he said it was the Bushmaster. How much clearer does he need to be?
Also, the police who are investigating have reported to the media that the AR-15 was used, according to the media reports. That’s not as good as the firsthand video of the medical examiner telling us himself, but it does corroborate his statement.
“But, what happens when, after New York basically bans “assault weapons” and El Presidente trys the same thing, we find out after their exaustive “investigation” that they were killed with a shotgun?”
So, why don’t you just push for the gun control legislation to be delayed until the Sandy Hook investigation is over? Or even better, just campaign against the gun control legislation in any circumstance. Pursuing conspiracy theories will accomplish absolutely nothing to stop Obama and the left’s gun control agenda.
Ohh and btw:
“The semi-automatic rate is the assault rifle/semi-auto only version on rapid fire. It is the maximum rate that a weapon can fire with any degree of accuracy in semi-auto mode, usually 45-60 rpm.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_fire
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