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Sandy Hook: this man helped save six children is now getting harassed for it
Salon ^ | Alex Seitz-Wald

Posted on 01/15/2013 3:50:57 PM PST by Dead Dog

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; connecticut; dnctalkingpoints; falseflag; liberalblog; newtown; salondeathwatch; sandyhook
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To: autumnraine

These are the kids that ran from the 2nd classroom where the 2nd teacher and I think four kids were killed. The teacher put some in the closet and others in cupboards and when the shooter came in she lied and said the kids were at some other activity.

He shot her and most of the kids hidden in cupboards bolted. 4 killed, 6 escaped BEFORE any response arrived. They ran like rabbits and ended up in this guys driveway.

He did those kids a solid, taking them in, making cocoa, calling their parents and generally giving them as much normalcy as possible.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 5:25:02 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Hot Tabasco

If you watch his “performances” he identifies the person with the children as a man in several of them and as a woman in several others. I find this EXTREMELY odd.

I can understand getting details confused. Almost anyone who’s told a story multiple times will embellish it - like the classic fish story where the fish gets bigger with each retelling - but to change a man to a woman or vice versa? Really makes me wonder if such a person existed.


42 posted on 01/15/2013 5:34:06 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Valpal1

Yes, this is part of the narrative that involves “I think” and other suppositions. The mortar of this narrative began to crumble at many places in the first week after the event and since that time, much patching of the story has taken place.

And the explanations are always...sensible.

But why so much defense of this narrative on FR in face of FReepers expressing desire for much more information, not just persuasion. See what I’m saying? A newsjockey doing a stand-up report in front of a location does not constitute evidence of anything other than he/she has a job.


43 posted on 01/15/2013 5:35:37 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; SueRae

>> I’m assuming these were those children.

> Your presumption should be easy to prove. But it isn’t delineated that well in the present and continuing narrative. The point is...we don’t know.

The point is to not harass a private citizen until you KNOW he’s lying.

Even if he is lying, what’s the deal with all the death threats? It’s crazy, egregiously horrible if the guy is innocent, and it makes those of us with genuine concerns for 2nd amendment rights look like idiotic, paranoid monsters.

For those who can’t stand Salon (and I don’t blame you) here’s the story on Yahoo.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html


44 posted on 01/15/2013 5:35:53 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: VictoryGal

1. No one on FR is advocating harrassing this man or anyone. It’s a bad, bad idea to do so.

2. I mentioned the headline in Salon but said nothing about my feelings regarding that website.


45 posted on 01/15/2013 5:42:01 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Longbow1969
You twist your self so far in that post your head must hurt from cranial rectum inversion pain.
46 posted on 01/15/2013 5:52:07 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: jwalsh07
None of this or your video justifies harassing a weak man with a flair for the dramatic

I didn't post a video, I wrote that the search would reveal questionable antics.

47 posted on 01/15/2013 5:57:09 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Longbow1969
Nope. Those are cover ups.

Says who, you, you're the arbiter of what is is a cover up or what is a conspiracy?

obama is a marxist plant, communism is taking over this Country, I guess that's a conspiracy too eh?

Never mind, you support it.

48 posted on 01/15/2013 6:03:25 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Dead Dog; Las Vegas Ron; Autumnrain

Here is a interview with a mother who was there on the scene that day and saw the kids running down to Gene Rosen’s house which is by the firehouse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbd6qRY358


49 posted on 01/15/2013 6:39:28 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: autumnraine
B) Google Nick and Laura Phelps Sexton Just saying... check it out. It’s just plain weird that two married people are identical to two other married people who are “crisis actors.”

I did and they are not crisis actors and not the same people. And they are also not the parents of the Green girl in the Tucson shooting which the same videomakers allege.

These videomakers are playing you for a fool.

50 posted on 01/15/2013 6:50:35 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: combat_boots
this coven of destroyers will do anything

Especially things that are impossible for the average person to contemplate or comprehend. These are the things they delight in.

51 posted on 01/15/2013 6:51:38 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: autumnraine

Nick Phelps is as bald as a cue ball. In the interview that this picture comes from he takes off his hat. Richard Sexton still has hair. They are not the same people. Nor are their wives and children.


52 posted on 01/15/2013 6:57:45 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: fatnotlazy; Longbow1969

>>Yep, some are on this site.

I caught some crap from several for trying to settle down a bunch of Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist nonsense around the weaponry used.


53 posted on 01/15/2013 7:03:27 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Dead Dog
See link.

I'd rather not.
If you can't bother to provide one or two sentences describing the subject, I can't be bothered to go to the "illiterates'" link.

54 posted on 01/15/2013 7:05:56 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Any word yet from the bus driver to confirm this story?

There's a link to an interview with an eyewitness mother who can @Post #49.

55 posted on 01/15/2013 7:07:43 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: autumnraine
Why is no one asking why these kids ran PAST the fire station where all the other kids were to his house?

These were the kids who were in the cabinets in Victoria Soto's classroom who ran from the school when there was a lull in the shooting. To get out of their classroom they had step over the dead bodies of Soto and their classmates. When they got outside they just wanted to run as fast and as far as their little feet could carry them -- and I don't blame them. Do you???

56 posted on 01/15/2013 7:15:09 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: colorado tanker
The staff locked the school down and demanded ID before they would even let the police in.

Where did you hear that??? That is nowhere near the truth.

So how did the kids get out?

Lockdown means that no one can enter. It didn't mean that the kids could not get out. Anyway the glass beside the front door had been blown out which is how the perp entered and the police.

they would find is the fire station - where emergency responders were mustering. How did they end up past the fire station in a private home driveway?

These kids escaped the school and ran past the fire station before anyone was mustering at the fire station.

Listen to the interview at Post #49.

57 posted on 01/15/2013 7:25:33 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SueRae

Yep — listen to the interview at the link at post #49.


58 posted on 01/15/2013 7:27:39 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: generally

Here’s an interview with a mother who came upon the scene and saw the kids running down to the firehouse. These were the same kids that escaped from Soto’s classroom and wound up sitting on this guy’s lawn that morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbd6qRY358


59 posted on 01/15/2013 7:34:12 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Resettozero
Yes, this is part of the narrative

No, this is part of the account

60 posted on 01/15/2013 7:45:04 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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