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Might want to start with a handgun or shotgun.
I would not say that an AR-15, for example, is the ideal weapon for home defense. You’ll want training with any weapon you get, range time, and how to strip and clean it.
AR-15’s have a fairly involved field strip process, ammo is not easy to come by right now, and neither are the rifles for that matter. Also, none of it is cheap at this time.
Also, rifles have the ability to pierce walls when fired.
My two choice weapons for home defense are my Sprinfield Arms XD .40 cal pistol and my Remington 870 tactical shotgun. Both cost 500$ each for the base weapon.
Re: AR-15’s have a fairly involved field strip process,
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61WKv720_Ow
You may where you are but here in the South... they sell as they are taken off the UPS truck.
LLS
I know a long hauler who stops at gun shops across the country - from Cabella’s to Walmart - Wipe out
He was at a Cabella’s yesterday in Utah - Store not that busy EXCEPT the guns/ammo section. Said it looked like a blue light special at Wlmart.
There was a holding area where people who had purchased a weapon and now waiting for background check - all seats full and packed with standing...and a line a couple dozen long who had chosen their weapon and in line to pay - Walls and cases almost bare.
He sees this from west to east, north to south.
There seems to be a hitch in the gun grabbers plans in America. In 1935 in Germany, for example, the German people didn't have a past example of what would happen once you registered your guns ;for the public safety.”
Nor the Russians.
WE have those examples to remember what steps follow.
So what they have accomplished is to set off the most accelerated purchase of guns, I beleive, in our history. Many hundreds of thousands have added to their weapons and many hundreds of thousands of people who have never owned a gun, or thought too, are now scrambling to get weapons and taking gun safety courses.
The wannabe Despots have kicked over a hornets nest - a very BIG hornet's nest.
It started right after the first election and has picked up steam each year - then exploded after Nov 2012...and exploded again the minute the Narcissist in chief and his gang came out, on the VERY DAY of the Conn. shooting, screaming “We're coming for your guns!”
I think the depth of the reaction has shook their confidence. the easy take over they had dancing in heir heads like sugar plum fairies has vaporized.
they may have the bigger, badder weapons - but the shear number of armed citizens across this land - and their seeming determination to fight - may not have been factored into their scenario. After all, most of us, after some fuss and flurry, meekly went out and bought the little mercury
screw you light bulbs. that trial balloon for ruling the meek masses was successful.
The they upped the ante with the TSA molesters. Yes, the public really got vocal on that one - but they finally settled down and accepted it.
But this ain't looking so good. It's looking like we may not just meekly hand in our weapons. With the world watching, they have to be calculating just how far they can go. This is a VERY BIG COUNTRY - with a gun - or two or three - "behind every blade of grass."
Add to that, bottom line: They are cowards when stood up against.
Problem there is - it's the MANUFACTURERS that are backed up!
They can't make them fast enough - Some are backed up now up to 2 YEARS.
the Chi-town gang in DC are getting a lesson in 'unintended consequences"
I'm thinking their bravado has a slow leak =
Hm, wanna go into manufacturing?
Your post gives me hope. Sales numbers give me hope. The Founding Fathers beliefs give me hope.
Very well written post.
ahahah
maybe Freepers should band together: “Free Republic Arms”
After the ban sunsetted, I decided I was not going to be caught short of high capacity mags again and especially not for my Browning Hi-Powers which are the last guns I would ever give up.
About once a month for nearly a year CDNN would have specials on various magazines. I ended up getting maybe a dozen Mec-Gar 15 and 20 round mags for the HiPower and also about the same for Argentine military 15 round with a 2 round extension which you could add your self. Before the ban I bought a 30 round mag with no name on it but it appeared high quality which shooting it has confirmed. Also a mag dealer told me it was no ordinary USA or other el cheapo brand. He thought it might have come from Argentina.
They all work perfectly except for two problems. The Argentine mags have such a strong spring that cannot fully load them with out a tool and that might be why they included the tool with the order.
The other problem was two USA brand mags I bought before the ban. They were cheap and should have been cheaper. One jammed regularly and is now pounded into flat sheet metal. The other one works but I don’t have confidence in it.
I also have a few FN made 13 round factory original mags. None of them have the little spring protruding in front near the bottom of the mag to shoot the mag out fast rather than just dump free.
Yes.
There are more steps for the AR then there are steps for my .40 cal pistol.
I found the Ruger sr-22 to be the most frustrating field strip of the guns I have.
Your .40 cal pistol is virtually worthless at 100 yards.
Oh, I have a Mossberg 500 and a .327 magnum revolver for the home (for the wife). I’m thinking down the road here (and monitoring the news...and remembering history). I do not have an arsenal. I do not have the money to begin amassing one now. But I am willing to secure a must-have piece of family protection for when things deteriorate.
I monitor the gun threads on FR. I love reading what those with much more knowledge in this area than I have to say. I trust my FR brethren in this area and trust them to be [more] ready [than I] but I assume I will not be able to secure an invitation to stay in their basement, help out with an occasional an shot-gun blast, tend to the wounded, etc. when you know what hits the fan.
Past, it’s in my closet, like I said, it’s a value question.
> ahahah
> maybe Freepers should band together: “Free Republic Arms”
I was thinking “Iron River [Arms]” — just to thumb the nose at the “iron river of guns going to Mexico” meme they were trying to push for Fast & Furious.
But, yes, if we pool resources we might be able to provide goods & services while making a profit.
There should be plenty of AR’s laying around from lead expired oath breakers in the security forces when the SHTF. Or check the several auction gun sites. Another consideration is a larger caliber bolt action rifle and quality scope and get beyond range of someone with an AR.
> There are more steps for the AR then there are steps for my .40 cal pistol.
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> I found the Ruger sr-22 to be the most frustrating field strip of the guns I have.
I’ve found the FN PS-90 to be excellent in the ease of breakdown and cleaning.
"Keep in mind, I’m a lowly school teacher with all the buying power of a chihuahua right now...(but I still want to be able to tell an intruder, “Drop the chilupa!”
This is what the poster specified his needs were. I don't think he has rooms with 100 yds between walls, do you?
I am also aware that my 40 .cal is worthless at 100 yds, and I am also aware that my tactical shotgun is worthless at 100 yds, which is why I also own a scoped 30/30 and an AR-15.
Do you mean a Ruger .22 pistol, like my old Standard Model?
The trick to reassembly is to flip it upside down when remounting the grip to the receiver. The little do-hicky deal that has to fit into the spring has to wiggle back and hang free to find the spring hole. I kid you not. Once you get the hang of the upside-down do-hicky hang, it’s a snap. Really.
The Ruger Scout is on my list of guns to buy this year.
I figure if I cannot buy the semi-autos I want (at the moment bc of backorders) I will buy those I can and purchase the others when the panic dies down.
I really wanted an FN 5.7 and an AR in .308 (Eugene Stoner’s original design) but we will see if I am ever able get those.
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