Posted on 01/13/2013 4:36:35 PM PST by TigerClaws
Brewster, N.Y. 1/13/2013 Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson R, C, I) announced that a burglary has been reported on Davis Ave. in White Plains, New York that evidently ties into The Journal News gun maps. It is reported that the burglar used The Journal News interactive gun map to target a home included on the map. Luckily the gun was locked up and no one was hurt.
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Actually, the list is of pistol permit holders, not those homes protected by legally held but unlisted long guns. Any (many) of the unlisted homes are protected by a 12 ga or other firearms.
Normally, I’d agree. But in this case, having him still around to testify is actually better - the homeowner can now use his testimony to end up owning the Journal.
Publish the addresses of the newspaper staff and remind people that it is likely that cash, jewelry, and other valuable are likely present in these homes and that the owners are likely to be unarmed.
...according to F&F this am...a woman who was a victim of a stalker, moved, became a registered gun owner, was listed by the newspaper....IS NOW GETTING PHONE CALLS FROM THE STALKER she was avoiding...talk about a suit!
Yep it’s to the left of the marker. Google maps will give you directions and the fastest route to the house.......in case they invite you over for a party or to just hang out and chat. Cause that’s why I’d like to know where someone lives.
Sue the socks off National Journal.
I shortened it to sue for socks, presuming too much I guess. .)
Where is the info on the burglary suspect? They must have him if they already know how/why he picked the location.
Recourse against the National Journal is slow in coming. Not a peep that what they have done is practically home invasion on their part, giving out keys to homes. NY and eastern state politicians are mostly silent and this alone is shocking.
Your prediction is a given. The collective wins over individual rights, under communist rule.
This is such an invasion of privacy, such a hack kneed way to take our weaponry such blithering stupidity it’s getting hard to read this crap but it’s happening and we’re up against complete communists, complete fascists, and complete IDIOTS. I need to take a walk, and shoot a duck or something.BRB.
As much as I wish it were different, there is no way under the current interpretation of the First Amendment, to win a lawsuit against the newspaper. The press is given enormous leeway to behave stupidly.
In this case, the information was a public record and the newspaper published it. As reckless and stupid as it was, there wasn’t anything illegal about it. Yes, it was immoral, and inherently stupid. Yes, it was done with the malicious intent of maligning gun owners. However, the fact remains that newspapers are allowed to publish public records, no matter the negative consequences that might flow from their foolish decisions.
People think “sue” is a magic term that immediately brings showers of money along with unicorns and rainbows. That isn’t true. There has to be a valid ground for a lawsuit. Any lawsuit against the paper wouldn’t survive a motion to dismiss. The issue is with the New York law that requires handgun permits in the first place, and then makes that information a public record.
This may have actionable consequences if the plaintiffs appeal to the area of tort law called intentional tort. This is the legal theory that covers any deliberate interference with a legally recognized interest, such as the right to keep and bear arms. Other things such as the rights to bodily integrity, emotional tranquility, dominion over property, seclusion from public scrutiny, and freedom from confinement or deception would qualify. It is true that any jury would have to balance this against First Amendment issues, but applying a “reasonable person” standard, the “seclusion from public scrutiny” might carry some weight. The firearm owner is not a public figure, so the “absence of malice” defense would not apply. Remember that a unanimous vote of the jury is not required in tort cases.
I’d suggest taking a look at Cox Broadcasting v. Cohen, 420 U.S. 469 (1975).
The paper is run by slime bags. No more no less.
That being said, the problem is not that a state document should be open to public display. That is a given that it should.
The problem is that the state sees fit to usurp the US Constitution and regulate a stated Constitutional FREEDOM, and spy on its citizens possession of firearms.
With my dense head...Yep!
How funny! You aren’t dense. Sometimes I can be too clever by half, if you get my drift. .)
Re:
“Gracia Matores address is 728 Springvale Road Great Falls VA 22066
lots of woods around the house... must be just beautiful.”
I’m sure it is.
It’d be a real shame if anything were to happen to it, wouldn’t it?
The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper, said Buckley.”
I believe many more retired and active duty police live in Putnam County where officials have stood up and said they will not disclose. I’m proud of them.
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