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Democratic Rep: Debt-ceiling blank check is like Emancipation Proclamation
daily callr ^ | 1-5-13 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 01/05/2013 5:21:10 PM PST by TurboZamboni

Democratic Illinois Rep. Danny K. Davis told The Daily Caller that President Obama should have the power to raise the nation’s debt ceiling without congressional approval, citing the example of President Abraham Lincoln issuing the Emancipation Proclamation as a good use of presidential authority.

“Sometimes when we’ve gotten great answers is when presidents have had enough authority to take some actions,” Davis told TheDC on Capitol Hill Friday. “I mean, remember that we just celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation, and if Abraham Lincoln had not had the power, authority and the will to make that decision, we may have gone on with the war that was going to last several additional years and much longer, and thousands and thousands of people could have and would have, in all probability, lost their lives.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; broke; ceiling; davis; debt; democrats; trillions
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To: TurboZamboni

Why should he wait on Obama?

He should just go out and start spending as much money as possible himself and not worry about it. Go ahead. Nobody is stopping him. Knock himself out.


41 posted on 01/05/2013 6:56:49 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: TurboZamboni
DC is burning and the emperor is fiddling as usual.
42 posted on 01/05/2013 7:08:15 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: TurboZamboni

Free is when you don’t have to pay for nothing or do nothing.


43 posted on 01/05/2013 7:10:33 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: TurboZamboni

>Democratic Illinois Rep. Danny K. Davis told The Daily Caller that President Obama should have the power to raise the nation’s debt ceiling without congressional approval, citing the example of President Abraham Lincoln issuing the Emancipation Proclamation as a good use of presidential authority. <

At least this Obama toady is only in the Illinois legislature as opposed to Congress. Is he that uneducated he does not understand the concept of checks and balances in our federal structure? I’d say that would be a most definite “yes”.


44 posted on 01/05/2013 7:10:49 PM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: MarkL

It was that sweetheart Anita Dunn who uttered that cra* and she slunk back into the shadows. Seems they do the most harm from behind the curtain, pull it back and there is that idiot Cass Sunsteen and his charming wife Suzanne powers et al....


45 posted on 01/05/2013 7:25:36 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: TurboZamboni
These idiot Dem's need to focus on a few key facts.

Most of this country's debt is relatively short term (i.e. not ten or twenty year bonds).

Interest and debt service on the debt is one of the largest components of the federal budget (assuming we had a budget).

Interest rates could increase dramatically if rating agencies lowered the US credit rating. See what is happening in the Eurozone. The federal government has been told that debt as a percentage of gross domestic product needs to be managed and that there needs to be a sustainable plan to pay for and manage the national debt.

What this means is that if we just spend and borrow more the credit rating will go down and the cost of borrowing will skyrocket to the point that huge cuts in spending beyond anything that politician or the public will stomach. Look at the “austerity riots and protests in many Eurozone countries.”

46 posted on 01/05/2013 8:50:22 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: vbmoneyspender
The Emancipation Proclamation applied only to people held as slaves in states that were in rebellion against the United States. To free slaves in states that were not in rebellion against the United States, a number of amendments to the Constitution had to be passed.

Not really. By the time 13A went into effect, slaves remained in bondage only in KY (about 50,000) and DE (something <200). All others had previously been freed either by state action or by the Emancipation Proclamation.

The true incentive for 13A was not the relatively few remaining slaves in KY, it was the possibility (quite reasonably grounded) of a legal challenge to the legality of the Emancipation Proclamation. While Lincoln could proclaim anything he wanted, this did not of itself give the Proclamation legal and constitutional validity.

While in retrospect it seems unlikely the post-war SCOTUS would have rule the EP unconstitutional, it was a genuine concern at the time.

47 posted on 01/05/2013 11:04:39 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: TurboZamboni
if Abraham Lincoln had not had the power, authority and the will to make that decision, we may have gone on with the war that was going to last several additional years and much longer, and thousands and thousands of people could have and would have, in all probability, lost their lives.”

I think it debatable whether the EP had any direct influence on the course of the war, other than its ending the possibility of European intervention.

48 posted on 01/05/2013 11:10:40 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: doc1019
Why have a debt ceiling if anyone can raise it on a whim?

Until now, they've gotten away with the last 4 years by not having a budget - all those continuing resolutions did was allow them to keep adding pork and slush-fund money to the deal and cost us an extra trillion or two.

49 posted on 01/06/2013 3:37:07 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: 2banana

“A fool who would trade his freedom for some government cheese...”

Or his birthright for a bowl of lentil soup...nothing new under the heavens.


50 posted on 01/06/2013 7:02:24 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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To: rawcatslyentist
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51 posted on 01/06/2013 7:18:02 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: a fool in paradise

I would be willing to bet that a sizable percentage of the auto and bank bailouts and the “green energy” loot returned to the Obama and DNC campaigns.


52 posted on 01/06/2013 5:03:45 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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