Posted on 01/05/2013 11:24:09 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
When Chancellor Angela Merkel hosted a recent reception for military families, she greeted parents, wives and children whose loved ones were spending their holidays in Afghanistan, Lebanon, Kosovo and off the Horn of Africa. German deployments overseas, Ms. Merkel said, “will soon encompass the entire globe.”
On that same wintry afternoon, members of Parliament debated whether to add to the nearly 6,000 German troops currently serving abroad by sending up to 400 soldiers to Turkey, where they would operate two Patriot missile batteries to help protect their NATO ally from a potential escalation of the civil war across the border in Syria.
“For decades, we Germans have benefited from the fact that our partners gave us the feeling of reliable security,” Thomas de Maizière, Germany’s defense minister, said during the debate last month. “Now we are in a position and have the duty, even, to make our impact felt.”
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Wow. An honest European. (For "our partners" insert "the United States.")
You are obviously in denial. LoL!
1608 - Several Germans were among the settlers at Jamestown.
You keep citing meaningless links related to Americans rather than Germans.
Besides, back during the world wars, there were German Americans that fought for the USA, and others that went back to Germany to fight on their side. Also meaningless.
Sorry I damaged your psyche with information you’re not able to handle.
You can go back to your bubble now.
As lively as these debates are, they have also been repeated ad nauseum. Why all this constant rehashing of Hitler and the past, some ask? But it’s really about the present. Hitler isn’t the problem. The problem is our society.There is also this, from back in May of last year.
The scandal isn’t that Nadja Drygalla was part of the German rowing team. The scandal is that young Germans in the 21st century feel the need to be neo-Nazis. The scandal is that neo-Nazis now dominate a neighborhood in the Ruhr region, a region that, ironically enough, was long proud of its capacity to integrate different ethnic groups. The scandal is that for years a terrorist group was able to pass undetected as it shot and killed people from immigrant communities, and that some public servants couldn’t or wouldn’t see what monstrosities were taking place in Germany.
Does it happen elsewhere? Of course it does. Other countries, like Hungary, the Netherlands, France and Denmark, even have radical right-wing parties represented in their national parliaments. Does that mean it isn’t really all that bad in Germany? No, it is. Even after almost 70 years, it does make a difference whether an act of xenophobia happens in Germany or in Spain. We remain a special case, because Hitler is one of us. …
A large majority of Germans (59%) view Israel as “aggressive” and think Germany no longer has a special obligation to the Jewish nation, according to an opinion poll released Wednesday ahead of a state visit by Germany’s president. …
Seventy percent said they believed Israel pursued its interests without consideration for other nations, Stern said in a pre-release of its Thursday edition, up 11 percentage points from three years ago. …
You, in turn, have failed to substantiate what you posted.
All you have to play is the Nazi card, just like a sick minded liberal who plays the Race card.
As if we don't constantly see the BBC attacking Israel and siding with Palestinians.
Here is link about Jewish people... Now you can post the UK is not the friend of America.
As a Brit, I am ashamed of what is happening in my country.
How long before British universities do something about the safety of their Jewish students? A new survey reveals that Jewish students at one of Britain’s top institutions face a “toxic atmosphere” in which they are forced to hide their identity.
BTW, you are not an American, are you?
You have no State flag. Nor an About Me page with even a single American ideal and you display a hysterical antagonism against Germany that can only be the product of the Hitler infatuated British press.
You are clearly overreacting. As well as underreacting to the state of affairs at federal level in Berlin. Your (dare I say) genuinely hysterical defense of Germany at the expense of the USA bears more than some scrutiny now, as well as the consistent attempts at deflection by pointing at the UK, who had a hand in the creation of the state of Israel.
As far as the BBC goes, they are consistent in their anti-UK stance, as well as their anti-Israel stance; the former even dates back to the 1930s. They have for a long time been influenced by overseas and leftist concerns. But do they represent the conservative view in the UK, any more than the Democratic party represents a US conservative view? That’s the real question.
I don’t recall if I asked you your views on the social market economy. I might have. When its proponents attack the USA unjustly over its free market model, then I take umbrage. If you join me in such umbrage, then I’m well pleased by that.
But I advise you to take a closer look at the foreign policy out of Berlin as well as Brussels, because they are always in sync.
No over-reaction. Just exposing you man.
That is a myth -- propaganda -- fostered by the Nazis themselves, but in fact Germany prospered during the 1920s and Nazis got only 3% of the vote in 1924 and 1928.
In 1929 the Great Depression hit and Nazi vote rose to 18% in September 1930, then 30%, 37% & back to 33% in three 1932 elections.
Finally in January 1933, just as Nazi popularity began to fade, President Hindenburg appointed Hitler chancellor, the Reichstag fire gave him unlimited power, and in Germany's last relatively free election, March 1933, Nazis received 44% of German votes.
Point is, the Great Depression drove Hitler's rise to power, not Versailles, and even then, Nazis never received a majority of German votes.
And the truth of Versailles is that its terms were not so harsh as has been said -- less harsh than terms Germany itself imposed on, for examples, defeated Belgium and Russia.
Rather, the lesson of history is that, in times of economic downturn, voters often turn to unscrupulous charismatic leaders who promise to end their problems with radical actions.
Of course, nothing like that has ever happened here, ahem, right? Right?
;-)
bump!!
Such as with most things, probably to varying degrees.
I think you are exposing yourself more than you think you’re exposing me. That, though, was not because of me.
Not a bad summary.
Thank you for your UK-centric opinion on a Conservative American forum.
Enter a Germany thread I post again with the garbage “they are not our friends”, and I will spank you again.
Have a nice evening.
They are not our friends—certainly not at the federal level.
And dare I say your antipathy towards the UK is too reminiscent of one Barack Hussein Obama. Furthermore, your silence on the social market economy is deafening.
The Germans are either at your feet or at your throat. Churchill.
Germany is friends with America just like the UK and I never said UK wasn’t.
I already posted about economies with you several times in the recent past.
Too bad you need a do-over.
Churchill: “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they’ve tried everything else.”
“Everything, even lunacy, is mass produced here. But everything soon goes out of fashion.” Einstein
“The American way, take a good thing and over do it.” My father
You had me going there for a moment.
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